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From: Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer <taylanbayirli@gmail.com>
To: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.homelinux.net>
Cc: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@gmail.com>,
	David Thompson <dthompson2@worcester.edu>,
	"guile-user@gnu.org" <guile-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: A couple of questions about goops method parameters
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 17:27:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ha0je9hn.fsf@taylan.uni.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8761gzen4a.fsf@ossau.homelinux.net> (Neil Jerram's message of "Sun, 07 Sep 2014 11:33:25 +0100")

Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.homelinux.net> writes:

> IIRC, Metafont does that; but obviously it isn't intended as a general
> language.  Are there more general languages that solve equations like
> this?

From what I know, Prolog.

Other than that, Scheme. ;)

Apart from David's FRP implementation, I worked on the following a
little:

https://gitorious.org/taylan-guile/reactive/

(Warning: I might force-push commits to that repo at times.  It's not
"ready for consumption.")

I don't consider it complete, and it might be broken.  Some simple
examples work:

guile> ,use (reactive base)
guile> (define x 0)
guile> (define v (make-value () x))
guile> (define v2 (make-value (v) (display "recalculated\n") (+ v 5)))
guile> (get/tainted v2)
recalculated
$2 = 5
guile> (get/tainted v2)
$3 = 5
guile> (set! x 1)
guile> (taint! v)
guile> (get/tainted v2)
recalculated
$4 = 6
guile>

As you see, it's not purely-functional, and it requires explicit
"tainting" of root values.  After that, though, requesting any value
which directly or indirectly depends on that root will ignite a
recalculation of the graph of dependent values up to the requested one.

I continuously get confused while trying to reason about the precise
behavior of this system (even though it's very small), and had grave
bugs in it at times (actually I just fixed one while writing this
because I did a wholesale clean-up on the repo and re-uploaded it at the
above link).  Therefore, please don't trust that module for "real"
usage.

Taylan



  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-07 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-03  2:05 A couple of questions about goops method parameters Carlos Pita
2014-09-03 15:49 ` Carlos Pita
2014-09-03 16:47   ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-03 18:05     ` Carlos Pita
2014-09-03 16:20 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-09-05  8:32 ` Nala Ginrut
2014-09-05 12:47   ` Carlos Pita
2014-09-05 19:03   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-09-05 19:12     ` David Thompson
2014-09-05 19:35       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-09-05 19:55         ` David Thompson
2014-09-05 20:10         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-05 20:50           ` David Thompson
2014-09-07 10:33           ` Neil Jerram
2014-09-07 15:27             ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer [this message]
2014-09-05 20:10         ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-09-05 20:18           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-05 20:37             ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-09-05 20:51               ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-05 21:53                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-05 22:26                   ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-05 20:44           ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-05 21:08             ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-09-05 22:14               ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-06  8:53                 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-09-06 10:44                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-06 11:27                   ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-06 11:54                     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-06 23:46                     ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-09-07  0:20                       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-07 12:57                         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-07 13:58                           ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-07 16:46                             ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-07 19:49                               ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-09-07 23:13                                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
     [not found]           ` <CAPjoZoc7X7s+keog6avP62yvgJyQ3Ma_jomhw6xQq_rK9jnhVw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-09-06 16:57             ` Nala Ginrut

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