From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Curiosity: Microkernel implemented in Guile ? 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I think I have to clarify > that I agree that Scheme is good for low-level, depends on implementation. > But we are talking about Guile, and Guile was not designed for that > purpose, it's dedicated to extend C program, so the better choice is to > extend a C microkernel with Guile. That is what it was designed for, > originally. In recent years the scope of Guile widened in that respect, so it=E2=80=99s= very suited to implement many more parts of the system than it was with Guile 1.x =E2=80=94 with Guile 3 it starts to compete in performance. It might be suitable for many parts of the kernel nowadays. And the Hurd is a good way to get low level with much fewer risks than Linux kernel hacking. 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