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From: Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at>
Subject: [GOOPS] Specializing <generic> to allow lazy method addition
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:38:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fze6x5bu.fsf_-_@alice.rotty.yi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1074535797.1517.64.camel@localhost> (Andy Wingo's message of "Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:09:58 +0200")

Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> writes:

> On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 02:25, Kevin Ryde wrote:
>> I wonder if some lazy initializing would be possible, like catch a
>> failed method dispatch and add only at that time.  (But my ignorance
>> of goops is pretty profound, so maybe it's not feasible.)
>
> This is really a direct response to Andreas' question a couple days ago,
> which I have read but don't have on my laptop...
>
> I think I said something like make `add-method' cache methods, only
> adding them when `no-method' is called. We can look at the GOOPS manual
> (goops.info) to see what I mean.
>
> `Method Definition Internals' states that after ensuring the generic and
> creating the method, that the method is added to the generic via the
> generic `add-method!'. If the generics we create are actually subclasses
> of <generic>, we can specify `add-method!' to just keep the method in a
> holding pen of sorts. Which is to say,
>
> (define-class <guile-gnome-generic> (<generic>)
>    (temp-methods :init-value '()))
> (define-method (add-method! (generic <guile-gnome-generic>)
>                             (method <method>))
>   ;; Note we don't call next-method
>   (slot-set! generic 'temp-methods
>              (cons method (slot-ref generic 'temp-methods))))
>
I tried to play around with this a bit and it seems it is not viable
ATM; I experienced the problem described already in [0] and [1]. It
seems noone has answered why %invalidate-method cache insists on a
pure generic (from goops.c, in scm_sys_invalidate_method_cache_x):

  SCM_ASSERT (SCM_PUREGENERICP (gf), gf, SCM_ARG1, FUNC_NAME);

and what 'pure' generics are all about; FWICT, pureness is a flag set
for all built-in generic classes. Would someone of GOOPS knowledge
please be so kind to shed some light on this issue?

[0] http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2002-04/msg00197.html
[1] http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2003-07/msg00061.html

Thanks,
        Andy
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-23 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87smkc5b22.fsf@alice.rotty.yi.org>
     [not found] ` <874qwhsa2u.fsf@zip.com.au>
2003-12-04  9:02   ` New g-wrap supported in guile-gtk--rotty-0.1! Andreas Rottmann
2003-12-04 14:14     ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2003-12-04 17:21       ` Andreas Rottmann
2003-12-04 22:33       ` Andreas Rottmann
2003-12-06 16:18         ` Andreas Rottmann
     [not found]   ` <1074535797.1517.64.camel@localhost>
2004-01-23 11:38     ` Andreas Rottmann [this message]
2004-01-27 15:17       ` [GOOPS] Specializing <generic> to allow lazy method addition Mikael Djurfeldt
2004-01-27 23:27         ` Stephen Compall
2004-01-28  2:14           ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2004-02-01 19:41         ` Guile warts (was: [GOOPS] Specializing <generic> to allow lazy method addition) Andy Wingo
2004-02-05 19:03           ` Guile warts Mikael Djurfeldt

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