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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: cannot compile: srfi-10 define-reader-ctor 'hash '#,(
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:06:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvh02j6i.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878ums17q3.fsf@drakenvlieg.flower> (Jan Nieuwenhuizen's message of "Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:59:32 +0200")

Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>
>> The problem is that SRFI-10 itself does not specify an external
>> representation for hash tables, nor does Guile.  Thus this patch cannot
>> be applied.
>
> Yes, I understand that...Still, "wouldn't it be nice" if Scheme/Guile
> had something that javascript has, in JSON hash tables are "simply"
>
>    {"key0": value, "key1": value}

Yes, it would.

But the beauty of Scheme is that the language can be extended to support
that, like with the ‘hash-table’ macro suggested at
<http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2014-07/msg00009.html>.

> and although that's in some way much uncooler and restricted and set-in
> stone wrt Scheme readers and SRFI-10...you *are* able to stream and
> communicate objects over ascii/utf-8, unlike #,(hash ...

If the goal is to serialize/unserialize things, then the best option is
to devise an external representation, say:

  (hash-table (key0 value0) ...)

And then have ‘read-hash-table’ and ‘write-hash-table’ procedures
(rather than pass arbitrary sexps read from the wire to ‘eval’.)

> Here we are with a unimaginable cool srfi-10 reader extension, but we
> cannot really use it to communicate.

SRFI-10 is cool to reduce typing, but I’m not convinced it really helps here.

Ludo’.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-13 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87y4w9jog8.fsf@drakenvlieg.flower>
2014-07-05 13:40 ` cannot compile: srfi-10 define-reader-ctor 'hash '#,( Ludovic Courtès
2014-07-31  6:27   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2014-07-31 19:15     ` Neil Jerram
2014-08-14 10:27       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-14 19:42         ` Neil Jerram
2014-08-14 19:54           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-17 15:08       ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-08-11 15:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-08-13 19:59       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2014-08-13 20:43         ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-13 21:00           ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2014-08-13 21:13             ` Ludovic Courtès
2014-08-13 21:33             ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14  4:03             ` Mark H Weaver
2014-08-13 21:06         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2014-08-14  9:19         ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-08-14  9:53           ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 10:30             ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-08-14 10:36               ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 10:45                 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-08-14 12:59                   ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 13:58                     ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2014-08-14 11:13                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-14 13:17                   ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 14:34                     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-14 17:16                       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2014-08-14 18:28                         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-08-14 19:24                           ` Marko Rauhamaa

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