From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: Panicz Maciej Godek <godek.maciek@gmail.com>
Cc: "guile-user@gnu.org" <guile-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Core Guile bindings
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:30:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fuj0u7n4.fsf@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMFYt2Z4RGhX5ATJM5knsdY8s=PPAh-KLMKR6J5Rw9iKjrwZyQ@mail.gmail.com> (Panicz Maciej Godek's message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:18:41 +0200")
On Wed 12 Oct 2016 20:18, Panicz Maciej Godek <godek.maciek@gmail.com> writes:
> I've noticed that Guile core contains some bindings that shouldn't
> necessarily be globally available. In particular, it provides a set of
> socket-related functions with very general names, such as "select" or
> "bind", that some programmers may want to use for their own purposes.
>
> It is obvious that those functions should not be a part of the core, and
> should be moved to some separate module, and so I wanted to ask whether
> there are any plans for doing so?
Besides everything that everyone said -- I actually think that it *is*
possible to migrate bindings over time. In 2.2 I have moved the threads
exports (current-thread, call-with-new-thread, lock-mutex, etc) to
(ice-9 threads). However when built with deprecated code (the default),
we also export these bindings in (guile). They cause a deprecation
warning if you use them, telling you to change your program to
explicitly use (ice-9 threads). So migration of this kind is possible;
even within the 2.2 series more code can be put into modules.
That said while I think reducing the set of default bindings is a good
it is not without tradeoffs. Modularizing guile's core bindings isn't
really an active development focus.
Of course there are mitigations as well also; defining "select" in your
module works just fine, exporting it works fine, and users can resolve
the conflicts if needed. You also have #:replace if you think that your
module should be the one making that decision.
Andy
prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-26 18:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-10-12 18:18 Core Guile bindings Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-10-12 18:21 ` Thompson, David
2016-10-12 19:18 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-10-12 19:20 ` Thompson, David
2016-10-13 13:39 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-10-13 18:19 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2016-10-13 18:32 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-10-14 8:31 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2016-10-14 15:53 ` Robin Templeton
2017-02-26 18:30 ` Andy Wingo [this message]
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