problems running guile

problems running guile

[Shelagh Manton]

Hello,

I'm unable to start guile. I get the message

ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path

I looked on this list before and found a reference  in Alan Grover's
message of 24/09/2005 saying that if I pasted

(define-module (ice-9 slib))
(load-from-path "slib/guile.init") into 

/usr/share/guile/1.6/slib.scm

things might work. As I had this problem once before I use Lilypond which
uses the guile interpreter. I did this and everything worked fine.

However I updated Lilypond since this and the problem has reappeared.

When I repasted the snippet into the file this time, things did not get
better.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Shelagh




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Re: problems running guile

[Neil Jerram]

Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:

> ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
> ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path

Sounds like a %load-path problem.  What do you get on your system for

$ which guile

and

$ locate boot-9.scm

and

$ locate libguile

?

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Re: problems running guile

[Shelagh Manton]

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 18:32 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
> Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:
> 
> > ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
> > ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path
> 
> Sounds like a %load-path problem.  What do you get on your system for
> 
> $ which guile
/usr/bin/guile
> and
> 
> $ locate boot-9.scm
/usr/share/guile/1.6/ice-9/boot-9.scm
/var/packages/@lilypond.org/lilypond:2.7.12/backup/usr/share/guile/1.6/ice-9/boot-9.scm
> and
> 
> $ locate libguile
/usr/include/libguile &etc.
/usr/lib/libguile-somestuffhere
/var/packages/@lilypond.org/lilypond:2.7.12/backup/usr/lib/libguile-somemorestuff

>       Neil

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Re: problems running guile

[Shelagh Manton]

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 18:32 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
> Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:
> 
> > ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
> > ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path
> 
> Sounds like a %load-path problem.  What do you get on your system for
> 
> $ which guile
> 
> and
> 
> $ locate boot-9.scm
> 
> and
> 
> $ locate libguile
> 
> ?
> 
>         Neil
Just had a thought, this problem happened after I updated Lilypond so
the guile module that comes with it is possibly corrupt or conflicting
with the one that comes with lilypond. I went and uninstalled the guile
packages that come with ubuntu and reinstalled them again. This works.

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Re: problems running guile

[Neil Jerram]

Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:

> On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 18:32 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
>> Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:
>> 
>> > ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
>> > ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path
>> 
>> $ which guile
> /usr/bin/guile
>> and
>> 
>> $ locate boot-9.scm
> /usr/share/guile/1.6/ice-9/boot-9.scm
> /var/packages/@lilypond.org/lilypond:2.7.12/backup/usr/share/guile/1.6/ice-9/boot-9.scm

That all looks OK.  What command exactly were you running when you saw
the error above?  (Sorry for not asking that earlier.)

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Re: problems running guile

[Shelagh Manton]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:36:11 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:

> Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:
> 
>> On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 18:32 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote:
>>> Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:
>>> 
>>> > ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path:
>>> > ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path
>>> 
>>> $ which guile
>> /usr/bin/guile
>>> and
>>> 
>>> $ locate boot-9.scm
>> /usr/share/guile/1.6/ice-9/boot-9.scm
>> /var/packages/@lilypond.org/lilypond:2.7.12/backup/usr/share/guile/1.6/ice-9/boot-9.scm
> 
> That all looks OK.  What command exactly were you running when you saw
> the error above?  (Sorry for not asking that earlier.)
> 
>     Neil
> 
Both gnucash and lilypond give the same result.

However, I did resolve the problem, not through understanding, but through
brute force and the use of apt. I uninstalled guile and reinstalled it.
Updateing lilypond using the autopackager must have corrupted the previous
installation of guile. This solved the problem, but of course I don't know
how or why :)

Shelagh



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Re: problems running guile

[Vorfeed Canal]

On 10/18/05, Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> wrote:

> Updateing lilypond using the autopackager must have corrupted the previous
> installation of guile. This solved the problem, but of course I don't know
> how or why :)

Noone knows this with autopackage. This ugly thing was developed as
"InstallShit raplacement for *nix". It's so easy to install software
in Windows world - why in linux it must be different ? Let's ignore
will of distribution creators and make everything just like in
Windows: any autopackage can corrupt anything in your system and
you'll never know what exactly - but this is minor price to pay, right
?

To me this is major price to pay and I *never* use autopackage but YMMV.

http://www.kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/autopackage_designed_by_monkeys-2005-03-28-14-20.html


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Re: problems running guile

[Shelagh Manton]

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:32:24 +0400, Vorfeed Canal wrote:

> On 10/18/05, Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> Updateing lilypond using the autopackager must have corrupted the previous
>> installation of guile. This solved the problem, but of course I don't know
>> how or why :)
> 
> Noone knows this with autopackage. This ugly thing was developed as
> "InstallShit raplacement for *nix". It's so easy to install software
> in Windows world - why in linux it must be different ? Let's ignore
> will of distribution creators and make everything just like in
> Windows: any autopackage can corrupt anything in your system and
> you'll never know what exactly - but this is minor price to pay, right
> ?
> 
> To me this is major price to pay and I *never* use autopackage but YMMV.
> 
> http://www.kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/autopackage_designed_by_monkeys-2005-03-28-14-20.html
> 
Interesting. As I am totally ignorant about how any of the package
managers work internally, I just supposed it would be OK to use something
that used shell scripts as you're supposed to be able to read bash with
enough effort and a tutorial next to you. Perhaps using alien would be a
better option. 

Shelagh  



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Re: problems running guile

[Neil Jerram]

Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:

> However, I did resolve the problem, not through understanding, but through
> brute force and the use of apt. I uninstalled guile and reinstalled it.
> Updateing lilypond using the autopackager must have corrupted the previous
> installation of guile. This solved the problem, but of course I don't know
> how or why :)

As Vorfeed says, it almost certainly was autopackage that messed up
your system.  But anyway, it's good news that you have things working
again.

        Neil



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Re: problems running guile

[Neil Jerram]

Shelagh Manton <oneida@tpg.com.au> writes:

> Interesting. As I am totally ignorant about how any of the package
> managers work internally, I just supposed it would be OK to use something
> that used shell scripts as you're supposed to be able to read bash with
> enough effort and a tutorial next to you. Perhaps using alien would be a
> better option. 

Your best bet is always to use the packaging system which your
distribution provides.  (E.g. rpm for RedHat/Fedora, apt-get for
Debian, etc.)

    Neil



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