From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nikita Karetnikov Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: GNU Guile community in google+ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:00:50 -0500 Message-ID: <877gnd6g48.fsf@karetnikov.org> References: <87r4lpuxkc.fsf@pobox.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358301657 9739 80.91.229.3 (16 Jan 2013 02:00:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org To: Andy Wingo Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 16 03:01:15 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TvIJW-0003yY-9s for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:01:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56559 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvIJG-0001oE-07 for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:00:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvIJ9-0001ny-5X for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:00:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvIJ6-0004qq-JL for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:00:50 -0500 Original-Received: from li305-5.members.linode.com ([178.79.168.5]:40949 helo=cooksoni.karetnikov.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TvIJ6-0004qc-8p for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:00:48 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87r4lpuxkc.fsf@pobox.com> (Andy Wingo's message of "(unknown date)") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 178.79.168.5 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:9866 Archived-At: --=-=-= Hi, This thread misses the point. Because there are two separate issues: 1. Is it OK to use non-free and centralized services? I'm not going to explain why it's not OK in detail. But I'd like to point out that if you use such a service, you encourage others to do the same. Here is an example: > I think that Guile probably could engage with users who are already on > proprietary social networks, in a kind of announcement-oriented way, but > I agree that we as a project shouldn't try to build a community there. > Perhaps we could have someone manage "official" accounts for Guile on > these services and link them up to re-post things from our news feed. It's hard to change old habits that's why there /will/ be a community. Instead of discussing Guile there, we should explain why it's not ethical to use such networks. 2. How to promote Guile. It's important to identify why you want to promote Guile. For instance, if you want to educate newcomers, you can write a howto or improve the manual. Then you can share your work using ethical services and start a discussion. Nikita --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQ9gnuAAoJEM+IQzI9IQ38d5gP/0b4LMTh8BCa+Sk+k3MK+oDK UcUSM0ad7iAEZ32Gk41E2WWo0vfMBIAfNmexBaUHcWcwQvRfTqecb0TfXVbz/oI3 5dOFWtZkEEvMpBjY3mo+QEFid1Vbin2kWEmHyTWjyS3D4wYv7Tz9ex6All6tqdHl 54sKhJkY1aTyfLlIaT/Q572UI1NYoGjQ2vlTjnielFyQGyIorucSNsstcq/Km7Bn //4dmX/yVAfH6iVqRyP+pCdcJVj/YgtuBU9eLS42cX5kDFCRs4KGkoRICl2cj/Zy GMyMHP60hzS5lfQGYz9T6rAtFPlLlWtQLjtE6r354RQC24TDxxZBAyxRqTQhePbK EBA2stl4718h0zcj+Os5DM7ug5R3Di7Nonx8PBk+P/RhFd4h1BQTfjNvEhdKzGjU W9vLV8IVv6j+Ee8O34hQypMR5ccGDQJBH/9JZXugmWAxP8DAUcs5xnLXlalkifcK f2xWapn+j96A0SGgH/qQTqsys8BBkiR6t3+jF2S1bzs7HtCeqc6WPA3eXmtnN8lV ojYKTkIcvL2xzjF+vmeTPpU5Ach2O9JoLU0Bw/HGTqLirmd6pUDDLpWzI1qszfZ/ +Zs0V1Oi+K1DL+0TBXQWBjydyv907lPexP2VPImAQFzIQAkkNBXzSorz+hPAH38N rbpYI3DFnWLwbFZdjH+4 =7Llk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--