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That seems strange > because overall I would expect REPL environments and non-REPL > environments to be roughly the same. > > So, is this a bug? Works as intended? And if this is intended in this > way is there a workaround to make REPL and script exeution to behave > the same (preferably without namespace `pollution'). This is as intended. I don=E2=80=99t know a way to change that, though. Best wishes, Arne =2D-=20 Unpolitisch sein hei=C3=9Ft politisch sein ohne es zu merken --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJEBAEBCAAuFiEE801qEjXQSQPNItXAE++NRSQDw+sFAl+nCrgQHGFybmVfYmFi QHdlYi5kZQAKCRAT741FJAPD62PpD/0QgY+k762wucUWxRdihQV7tpLjosTM7ePq WQIgWARlrs4U8P1ZWfL6R1VdYcOYgT1j93m5VLOX/Vlmjv00xrWUSZpY5JWN+6Tc hrxG1Ubch1S2VrR8ttiFkE0h53rtyIsZu1UHpbXkfswADZtX7DP95u1v26K1FCPy SJR9Cw+CrCvV27E9x/h93j8QzKyAICIKAeXXwBeNK1yHcWvZqg8cRbXSBVQeJ5rv yXRsTZOXcBnYMNkxiuOWmU0NFioy6dG7quJOkRVj9KzRYX9RtxNJDeJf3il30XxC rDCeFbEHEfMWB1P0jeREpSISpfZqoFZTe3eKkqOzquO9NHGgKjl0nUgZQhHrJHt4 JIo4K493LvRG3KtOr2NyfoIT2nQHwAUJ5R+aPfvwEB8aDCPIsFCbDPRXQUc3cwrx vFO2sTtt30gJIdI5fQar0PkdV/dHbm1KwtcyA/SE5EcQ89Bk7rIq2yhCOg9tXSGh mJAZaG0ywc+TAljSwjJml3Op9izo72YjipTCYNzI5tE+JleFITLlWhBQ1urdeaGX 7W3iGMq5CZM5RmRGg6dzZL41ospp4++eYVuQQngtozEmWQ9DQ/L/T1TR/hEpkCpO eeE/18Q7OxX0s4VbuV/eqLZngSDNOL7b+kjzEA/5tbeCAGdYssdFK9E9vKbUR/PK B+TRoVH5S4jEBAEBCAAuFiEE3Si95tmHXKvOSosd3M8NswvBBUgFAl+nCrkQHGFy bmVfYmFiQHdlYi5kZQAKCRDczw2zC8EFSIZMA/9N5HU7k80fums4sb6pBRWd5WiN yyeghwloly3S3qLQ6V+8h7e2uuGWIQSeZfmIL5oiPDy4mDJ+oCoQxeT8RL9yecA+ yJWTweqYHGUkpSGFnhqiqip36Q9brdUGA56XU9okAlsEEt4ChNJj8MhoppQsDwxJ wfF4uDZ9oDvMDf5OzA== =Bkkd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--