From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 10:18:12 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <871sued8h7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <2e4e293e-618e-809a-2eff-31576319ea61@gmx.de> <874lzod28a.fsf@web.de> <6deb1610-e31b-b5c2-e9c9-95a2289af216@gmx.de> <87mvdfs6mh.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1488532757 24446 195.159.176.226 (3 Mar 2017 09:19:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2017 09:19:17 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 03 10:19:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cjjMe-0005EF-SQ for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2017 10:19:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56869 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjjMl-0002HT-10 for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2017 04:19:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52377) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjjMB-0002GI-AP for guile-user@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2017 04:18:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjjM5-0004NJ-4v for guile-user@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2017 04:18:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=45619 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjjM4-0004LM-VW for guile-user@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2017 04:18:29 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cjjLr-0000RG-Kn for guile-user@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Mar 2017 10:18:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw Cancel-Lock: sha1:w2fqLqCP66jgv4nnJIvYBc7cOTA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:13385 Archived-At: Nala Ginrut writes: > I think we have to elaborate the question clearer. > > 1. How to make guile-scheme more successful? > I think this is similar to ask "how to make scheme more successful". > This is the big question to the whole scheme community. > > 2. How to make guile platform more successful? > I this case, let me ask a question, if we have guile-python3 > (compatible with most of Python3 features), and provide more > convenient FFI helper function to help bind more libraries in short > time, is it possible to attract more people from Python land? Given > we'll have good JIT compiler in the future. Frankly, I doubt that migration of large Python-based applications is going to be a thing when nobody can even be bothered with immersing himself in the problems with migrating LilyPond from Guile-1.8 to Guile-2. -- David Kastrup