From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ricardo Wurmus Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: rfc: next guile 1.8.x release Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 13:31:26 +0100 Message-ID: <871re2ip29.fsf@elephly.net> References: <87ft38jw4h.fsf@gnuvola.org> <874kizh1er.fsf@gnu.org> <878s8b71d6.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36020"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , guile-user@gnu.org To: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 30 13:32:16 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l5pQE-0009Fi-T0 for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 13:32:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57478 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l5pQD-0007Qe-UM for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:32:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37404) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l5pPc-0007QP-Rv for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:31:36 -0500 Original-Received: from sender4-of-o51.zoho.com ([136.143.188.51]:21171) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l5pPa-0003cm-QM; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 07:31:36 -0500 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1612009890; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=CpcSIt5nnGuYObvDFXattkOJEWu85Rhz3Bb2PNbmErbwknTvMGVeV8sPW7XPTbULcn/ncZ8bpU7SBuzB/27wQg7w7Pv+b7DRGYdntCZXDRgKe12ZMIsoHHUmuWFsrMap7gCWQDaoXuETRlbJeSngaIJ9cfJnQz/8Y/iqoFmT5Aw= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1612009890; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=S+v0eN3ffrw2+TzeLTRMPkCA74rduCSMuuxOAE9m3oc=; b=n3ywl7sKzEh/mPVkZSA5GVm6xiWn8YR5p4lrd6idCIT+kw45AjLd+X5uXvdQ8sE0h0QCyrdP7+wQvPPc+GSBkbxppEvYEf69+2hDE5uhl8LUXSN0EX5oRktwUbhriZvVLZpBGkZL052FiLyFPgYunr0HZAW9ChtjpeL43Sq6WEs= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1612009890; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=S+v0eN3ffrw2+TzeLTRMPkCA74rduCSMuuxOAE9m3oc=; b=JO9GZJe57DF5WaVvd2fbYJapEK8R5VrxtyCngR9WR5eZocqQZpfoTTERz/RvL6pf z0oDALgE17FPAM0lQAz3QClsn6EU2YRRmMAoTZg6KEkGkGrdr2kB9JUzte4LFZBHiVD /KgIkFcagZsETWPoh/2/binZWLYpt/+0CVTWoB+U= Original-Received: from localhost (p54ad4b48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.173.75.72]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1612009890005704.6579419812388; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 04:31:30 -0800 (PST) In-reply-to: <878s8b71d6.fsf@web.de> X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC X-ZohoMailClient: External Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.143.188.51; envelope-from=rekado@elephly.net; helo=sender4-of-o51.zoho.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:17200 Archived-At: Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide writes: > Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > >> Thien-Thi Nguyen skribis: >>> I would like to work (on the weekends, so as not to intefere w/ >>> ) on preparation and release of Guile 1.8.9, targeted >>> for the ides of April (more or less). >>> >>> Guile 1.8.x users: What changes do you want to see in 1.8.9? > > I am not a Guile 1.8.x user, but changes I would like to see is anything > that could ease incremental porting to Guile 3.x. If there=E2=80=99s a wa= y to > backport incompatible interfaces from 3.x so people can replace the > 1.8.x-specific interfaces one by one, that could make it more viable to > move upwards. Guile 2 was already very different from 1.8. >>> Guile maintainers: Any tips (process, content, interop, etc) >>> most welcome! >> >> Guile 1.8 has been unmaintained for years and I wonder about the message >> we=E2=80=99d be sending by publishing a bug-fix release 11 years and 3 m= ajor >> versions later. > > The message we=E2=80=99re sending is that we don=E2=80=99t leave anyone o= ut in the cold > who committed to using Guile. The mailing lists are evidence enough that users of Guile 1.8 can get help in migrating to version 2+. But suggesting that Guile 1.8 is still maintained when it emphatically is not =E2=80=94 that is a step too far, in my opinion. --=20 Ricardo