From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user,gmane.comp.gnu.guix.user Subject: Re: No Guile on Windows? (was: My Guile Hacker Handbook) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 08:41:47 +0300 Message-ID: <83wo2teag4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3364bc82b7660df3ae8613cdadef8b9dac2fe416.camel@korwin-zmijowski.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16842"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: guile-user@gnu.org, help-guix@gnu.org To: Dmitry Alexandrov Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 24 07:42:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jyqTJ-0004FG-GD for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 07:42:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38394 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jyqTI-0004NT-IF for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:42:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55036) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jyqTA-0004N9-2g; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:42:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60981) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jyqT7-0001Pw-K4; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4895 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jyqT6-0004sF-7I; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 01:42:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Alexandrov on Fri, 24 Jul 2020 03:06:53 +0300) X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:16733 gmane.comp.gnu.guix.user:10009 Archived-At: > From: Dmitry Alexandrov > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 03:06:53 +0300 > Cc: Guile User , Guix Help > > > ## Installation > > > ### On Windows > > > > No solution yet. > > Is that true? Itʼs true (and a pity) that there no official packages, of course, but ‘no solution’? > > I vaguely recall, there was a Guile on MinGW a couple of years ago, does it no longer build? And what happened with Cygwin package after all? cygwin.com says, that 3.0.4 is there [1]. https://sourceforge.net/projects/ezwinports/files/guile-2.0.11-2-w32-bin.zip/download Mind you, this is a 32-bit build, and it is configured without threads (because building with threads produces Guile that crashes for almost any non-trivial operation, you can find the details in the Guile mailing list archives). I never tried to build a newer Guile, as doing a fully-functional MinGW port is a non-trivial endeavor that consumes a lot of time, and I don't have that time now. Sadly, Guile seems to care only about one OS: GNU/Linux, and more or less disregard the rest. Features are added that clearly cannot easily work on other OSes, let alone non-Posix ones, and with each such new feature producing a working MinGW port becomes harder and harder, even for experienced hackers. Please don't bother replying to this rant, it's just FYI, to convey my personal recollections and experiences from doing the 2.0.x port, and I don't intend to argue about it.