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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: guile 2.0.9 build on mingw
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:23:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ehcalysu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k3m3kor5.fsf@gnu.org>

> From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
> Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 22:33:50 +0200
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> skribis:
> 
> > There's only one thread at this point, its backtrace is below.
> > Actually, I don't see more than this one thread during the entire run
> > (GDB doesn't announce any thread birth or death, and Process Explorer
> > shows a single thread in the process at all times).  Note that we are
> > talking about a child guile process -- it's that one that prints the
> > weird traceback and hangs.  The parent just waits for the child to
> > finish.
> 
> Where’s the child process created exactly?  It’s not clear to me.

Sorry, this was a red herring.  The parent process is the guile.exe
from libguile, which is just a wrapper around the real guile.exe,
which is hidden in its .libs subdirectory.  So the parent is not
important; only the child is.

> Anyway, it could be that the parent Guile process has more than one
> thread, and the child Guile process (which has only one thread) ends up
> with some mutexes locked, and possibly inconsistent state.

See above: the parent is not really Guile, it's just called guile.exe
to dupe all kinds of scripts (and me ;-).

> Normally a Guile with multiple threads warns upon ‘fork’, precisely
> because of this problem (see ‘scm_fork’ in posix.c.)

As I wrote earlier, there's no 'fork' in MinGW, so I'm not sure this
is at all relevant.  Or maybe it is -- perhaps the threads
infrastructure in Guile really assumes Posix functionality that just
isn't there in the MinGW build?

> However, that warning doesn’t take into account the signal thread, nor
> the GC thread (if any).  So, although that seems unlikely, there could
> still be issues, for instance if the ‘scm_fork’ call happens while
> ‘signal_delivery_thread_mutex’ is locked.

What signal would that be?  Are you sure it exists, or is emulated, on
Windows?

Thanks.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-06-10 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-20 19:46 guile 2.0.9 build on mingw Panicz Maciej Godek
2013-05-20 20:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-20 20:46   ` Andy Wingo
2013-05-20 21:09     ` objc
2013-05-21  2:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-22 15:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-07  8:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-07 12:44       ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-07 14:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-09 17:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-09 20:33             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-09 21:16               ` Andy Wingo
2013-06-09 21:35                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-10 16:18                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-10 16:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-10 16:23               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2013-06-10 19:09                 ` Mark H Weaver
2013-06-10 19:49                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-10 20:54                     ` Mark H Weaver
2013-06-11 16:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-11 22:11                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-12 17:46                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-18 21:51                             ` Why launch the Guile signal delivery thread on exit? (was Re: guile 2.0.9 build on mingw) Mark H Weaver
2013-06-19 15:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-19 16:06                               ` Julian Graham
2013-06-19 19:20                               ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-12 17:57                         ` guile 2.0.9 build on mingw Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-13 13:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 14:19                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-13 13:33                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 14:36                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-16 15:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 14:55                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-16 15:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 18:59                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-13 13:40                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 14:59                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-17 15:41                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-18 20:45                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-18 22:28                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2013-06-19  3:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-19 19:26                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-19 20:02                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-19  2:59                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-19 15:56                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-19 19:38                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-13 13:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 15:04                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-16 15:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 14:44                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-16 15:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-12 17:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 14:46                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-12 18:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-16 19:50                           ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-16 20:22                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-17 15:45                           ` Mark H Weaver
2013-06-18 17:17                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-18 19:31                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-18 20:19                                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-19  2:53                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-06-19 19:28                                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2013-06-19 19:56                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-26 20:41     ` Panicz Maciej Godek

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