From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Amirouche Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:26:16 +0100 Message-ID: <74c3a0ba-cef9-00d9-3e53-8cdd10237be7@hypermove.net> References: <87lgtajpkc.fsf@web.de> <878tp967p4.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87shnhabln.fsf@web.de> <87r33162wa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87inob4c8w.fsf@dustycloud.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1487276812 5049 195.159.176.226 (16 Feb 2017 20:26:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:26:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 16 21:26:44 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ceSdV-0000Wr-0n for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:26:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49744 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ceSda-0000Pj-SO for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:26:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47049) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ceSdD-0000PS-W7 for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:26:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ceSdA-00017G-QH for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:26:23 -0500 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::195]:34894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ceSdA-00015w-KC for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:26:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter12-d.gandi.net (mfilter12-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.129]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C50A80D5 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:26:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter12-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]) by mfilter12-d.gandi.net (mfilter12-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c4iCr6lobzsA for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:26:16 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 37.160.170.196 Original-Received: from [192.168.2.9] (unknown [37.160.170.196]) (Authenticated sender: amirouche@hypermove.net) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3B14A80C6 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 21:26:16 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4b98:c:538::195 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:13274 Archived-At: Le 16/02/2017 à 20:18, sirgazil a écrit : > Amirouche says: >> What block you from contributing to the wide ecosystem of GNU Guile? > I think about Guile (and GuixSD) almost every day, but I don't contribute as much as I'd like mostly because of lack of resources to do so. Sadly, it's hard to find the opportunity to immerse yourself in libre projects. > > As for how to make GNU Guile more successful, I'd like to see what I call a "Hello Guile" series of guides targeted at people who just want to start programming. The series would include: > > + Hello Guile: Getting Started (An overview of programming, and how to start with Guile) > + Hello Guile: Let's develop a console application > + Hello Guile: Let's develop a desktop application > + Hello Guile: Let's develop a web application > + Hello Guile: Let's develop a 2D game > + Hello Guile: Let's package your software for distribution > > Additionally, I'd like the following: > > + More high level libraries [1] > + Add Guile to the GNOME Developer Center [2][3][4] > + Package more guile libraries in Guix > > Finally, we need to clone a bunch of people to do all this work :) > > > [1]: For example, I'm following the Systematic Program Design course with > Gregor Kiczales. The course uses DrRacket for interactive > programming and a language called BSL (Beginning Student > Language). > > When I started, my plan was to follow the course in Guile instead, > since the course is about the design method, and not the tools, but > I had to stop very early when I had to do some projects involving > graphics and animation. > > Personally, I don't feel the need for something like DrRacket, > but it would have been nice to be able to find a Guile "canvas" or a > 2D game library to play easily with basic graphics and animations. > [2]: https://developer.gnome.org/ > [3]: https://developer.gnome.org/gnome-devel-demos/stable/ > [4]: https://developer.gnome.org/references (see Language Bindings section) > > > > --- > https://sirgazil.bitbucket.io/ I have to +1 all of this post.