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From: Vorfeed Canal <vorfeed.canal@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PHP to GUILE
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 20:34:16 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6efab2350509260934639fcc59@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6efab23505092609331abd82b7@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/26/05, Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@glug.org> wrote:
>    From: Vorfeed Canal <vorfeed.canal@gmail.com>
>    Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:43:59 +0400
>
>    This means I'm not the only one who feel like this hardcoded path is
>    not a good solution.
>
> you may be able to get guile 1.4.x[1] to do what you want.  all the
> compiled modules (shared object libraries following a certain loading
> convention) of Guile-SDL and Guile-PG, for example, are not installed
> under /usr/local/lib.
>

And they are incompatible with pthreads and are not using GOOPS at
all. Thnx, but no thnx.

> those packages use "module catalogs", which is another (IMHO superior)
> resolution mechanism, but anyway guile 1.4.x provides `%%ltdl' to expose
> low level (prefix-path-munging) mechanisms from libltdl, should you
> prefer that kind of control.
>

Hmm... And why "module catalogs" are superior ? I see one reason for
their existence, but may be there are ones. For example I view this
feature: "the actual placement of the file in the filesystem is
decoupled from its module name" as DISadvantage... I mean: we need
hierarchy of modules, we have perfect system to organize objects in
hierarchy called "filesystem" why we'll ever want to replace it
without very compelling reasons?

> (hmmm, i just checked to see if there are online docs for `%%ltdl', but
> there aren't (yet), so i will write some shortly and post a link in
> another message -- in the meantime, you can look at the source file
> guile-1.4.1.106/libguile/lt.c for ideas.)

The biggest problem with this mechanism is that it's unsupported by
official version. I can as well just go back to PHP and revert
unneeded changes. After all I was able to revert this:
http://cvs.php.net/diff.php/ZendEngine2/zend_execute.c?r1=1.652.2.38&r2=1.652.2.39&ty=u
and now my old PHP scripts are Ok. I want STABLE SUPPORTED language,
not something I'll be destined to keep in working state myself.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-26 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-25 21:50 PHP to GUILE Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-26  1:42 ` Kevin Ryde
2005-09-26  7:27   ` Zeeshan Ali
2005-09-26  8:17     ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-26 17:57       ` Zeeshan Ali
2005-09-26 19:05         ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-26 19:34           ` Zeeshan Ali
2005-09-26  7:43   ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-26 11:17     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]       ` <6efab23505092609331abd82b7@mail.gmail.com>
2005-09-26 16:34         ` Vorfeed Canal [this message]
2005-09-26 22:12           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-09-27 10:11             ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-27 12:48               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-09-27 14:36                 ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-27 17:13                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-09-27 17:47                     ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-27 19:44                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-09-26 12:23 ` Exceptions Ludovic Courtès
2005-09-26 19:20   ` Exceptions Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-27  8:42     ` Exceptions Ludovic Courtès
2005-09-27 10:54       ` Exceptions Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-27 15:45         ` Exceptions Ludovic Courtès
2005-09-27 17:18           ` Exceptions Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-28  7:10             ` Managing Guile and extensions versions Ludovic Courtès
2005-09-28 20:19               ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-29 15:34                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2005-09-29 16:30                   ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-30 22:07                     ` Neil Jerram
2005-10-19  7:58                       ` Rob Browning
2005-09-29 22:24               ` Kevin Ryde
2005-09-30  8:00                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2005-10-02  1:59                   ` Kevin Ryde
     [not found]                     ` <6efab2350510020425j76899e29hec6ea7e3dcce6c3@mail.gmail.com>
2005-10-03  1:58                       ` Kevin Ryde
2005-10-04 11:06                         ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-10-04 23:58                           ` Kevin Ryde
2005-10-05 14:18                             ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-10-09  1:53                               ` Kevin Ryde
2005-10-11 10:20                                 ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-10-11 14:56                                   ` Greg Troxel
2005-10-11 21:32                                   ` Kevin Ryde
2005-10-03 12:58                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2005-09-26 19:37 ` PHP to GUILE Neil Jerram
     [not found]   ` <6efab235050926131843ce69e2@mail.gmail.com>
2005-09-26 20:18     ` Vorfeed Canal
2005-09-26 22:39       ` Kevin Ryde
2005-09-27  9:20         ` Vorfeed Canal

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