From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Alexandrov Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: A licence for an =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=98awesome_list=E2=80=99?= (was: Starting a GNU Guile awesome list) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:18:23 +0300 Message-ID: <5zanq0m8.dag@gnui.org> References: <87h7u9xp2i.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7145"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org To: Zelphir Kaltstahl Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 16 11:19:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jw02x-0001kf-84 for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:19:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57244 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jw02v-0002GH-Qk for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 05:19:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39184) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jw026-0002GB-HC for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 05:18:26 -0400 Original-Received: from relay-1.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.6]:48865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jw024-0006eq-CL for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 05:18:26 -0400 Original-Received: from v-1c.localdomain (unknown [192.168.90.161]) by relay-1.mailobj.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 78E3C12AF; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:18:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by mail-1.net-c.com [213.182.54.15] with ESMTP Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:18:21 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: Q0CPvj638gXcRxSvRZPecBLhmiYj1r1pMeV+u5asu7AsSR/vQ5jazqm209JlHwlC//XvvmkldUNB1ZmsssT9xbnaku7nTs54 In-Reply-To: (Zelphir Kaltstahl's message of "Wed, 15 Jul 2020 23:14:52 +0200") OpenPGP: id=525F7E60AD812C2361752BB4C8B0F8548EE7F3E7; url=https://openpgpkey.gnui.org/.well-known/openpgpkey/gnui.org/hu/hr4k5tkxm6shwdc18su4bkm34w3dctjd Mail-Copies-To: always Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.6; envelope-from=dag@gnui.org; helo=relay-1.mailobj.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/16 04:47:30 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:16697 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote: > On 15.07.20 08:36, Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> Zelphir Kaltstahl writes: >>>> First at foremost, the list _itself_ has to be licensed as a free docu= mentation. FWIW, most of =E2=80=98awesome lists=E2=80=99 are under CC0. >>> While the list is not CC0, I meant to put it under "GNU Free Documentat= ion License v1.3", which I think should be appropriate (Is it not?) and fre= e as in freedom. Good that you hint at the license, because I thought it ha= d a license already. >> GFDL isn=E2=80=99t considered as free by the debian standards, because i= t can have invariant sections. CC by-sa might be a good fit, since it is co= mpatible with GPLv3 and wikipedia at the same time. > > I just read multiple articles about GFDL and CC0 and still don't know wha= t the better choice is for the list. Sometimes it=CA=BCs better to read a text itself than multiple texts about = text. ;-) As least FSF have always tried to keep their licences in English= , not legalese. Doing it, you would find out right away, than GNU FDL is a licence for =E2= =80=9Cmanuals, textbooks, or other functional and useful documents=E2=80=9D= ; and most of it is about things like =E2=80=98Front Cover=E2=80=99, =E2=80= =98Back Cover=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98Title Page=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98Dedications= =E2=80=99, =E2=80=98Endorsements=E2=80=99, etc, and what one have to do whe= n printing 101+ copies. What is not written in it, though, is the fact it=CA=BCs _not_ compatible w= ith any version of GNU GPL. > In particular I do not find information about whether CC0 is copyleft or = not (1) Quoth (emphasis mine): | A work released under CC0 is dedicated to the public domain to the fulles= t extent permitted by law. If that is not possible for any reason, CC0 also= provides a *lax, permissive* license as a fallback. Both public domain wor= ks and the lax license provided by CC0 are compatible with the GNU GPL. | | If you want to release your non-software work to the public domain, we re= commend you use CC0. Besides being GPL-compatible, it=CA=BCs FDL-compatible as well, while CC BY= -SA is not. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYIACsWIQRSX35grYEsI2F1K7TIsPhUjufz5wUCXxAbYA0cZGFnQGdudWku b3JnAAoJEMiw+FSO5/PnEBUBAKkoNvHFU8T+kLTZhHJw2w5/CTgXAoib8oovrjc3 BRyAAQDF5c+ey2mNSqNc0nqbluCDYKZPsDCKE4zMT6GT+j9QCg== =klTE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--