Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

[Amirouche]

I made a screencast explaining how I would start building a poll application
using by favorite tools of the moment.

There GNU Guile in the backend using the new guile-fibers to run the 
http server
workers.

In the frontend I use BiwaScheme with snabbdom library for interacting 
with the
browser.

BiwaScheme is a Scheme interpreter written in JavaScript.

Snabbdom is library that implement a diff+patch algorithm which allows 
to declare
how the page will look and it make it happen. It also handles bindings 
events to
callbacks. The use of snabbdom is bound to scheme and its use is 
transparent.

The first video, I try to explain what tools I will use and sort of why. 
It's not
very interesting https://youtu.be/i47QgE0ihSw

The second video, I tackle an issue in forward.scm, basically I am bug 
hunting in
the browser: https://youtu.be/to8vdri82_E

The last is the most interesing, it restart where I left it in the 
previous video
with basically a minimal frontend (so you might want to look at the 20 
last minutes
of the second video). Anyway, then it goes on to allow the frontend 
(client side)
to communicate with the backend (server side) using HTTP: 
https://youtu.be/ePiHp1lgbas

The code can be found @ https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul

azul means "hello" in amazigh.

Happy hacking!

~ amz3 ~ http://hyperdev.fr

Re: Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

[Nala Ginrut]

Oh I'd love to see someone write web front-end with Scheme. Good job !



2017年5月7日 02:47，"Amirouche" <amirouche@hypermove.net>写道：

I made a screencast explaining how I would start building a poll application
using by favorite tools of the moment.

There GNU Guile in the backend using the new guile-fibers to run the http
server
workers.

In the frontend I use BiwaScheme with snabbdom library for interacting with
the
browser.

BiwaScheme is a Scheme interpreter written in JavaScript.

Snabbdom is library that implement a diff+patch algorithm which allows to
declare
how the page will look and it make it happen. It also handles bindings
events to
callbacks. The use of snabbdom is bound to scheme and its use is
transparent.

The first video, I try to explain what tools I will use and sort of why.
It's not
very interesting https://youtu.be/i47QgE0ihSw

The second video, I tackle an issue in forward.scm, basically I am bug
hunting in
the browser: https://youtu.be/to8vdri82_E

The last is the most interesing, it restart where I left it in the previous
video
with basically a minimal frontend (so you might want to look at the 20 last
minutes
of the second video). Anyway, then it goes on to allow the frontend (client
side)
to communicate with the backend (server side) using HTTP:
https://youtu.be/ePiHp1lgbas

The code can be found @ https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul

azul means "hello" in amazigh.

Happy hacking!

~ amz3 ~ http://hyperdev.fr

Re: Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

[Amirouche]

Le 06/05/2017 à 21:18, Nala Ginrut a écrit :
> Oh I'd love to see someone write web front-end with Scheme. Good job !
>
>

I will see what new artanis will be out :)

Tx!

>
> 2017年5月7日 02:47，"Amirouche" <amirouche@hypermove.net 
> <mailto:amirouche@hypermove.net>>写道：
>
>     I made a screencast explaining how I would start building a poll
>     application
>     using by favorite tools of the moment.
>
>     There GNU Guile in the backend using the new guile-fibers to run
>     the http server
>     workers.
>
>     In the frontend I use BiwaScheme with snabbdom library for
>     interacting with the
>     browser.
>
>     BiwaScheme is a Scheme interpreter written in JavaScript.
>
>     Snabbdom is library that implement a diff+patch algorithm which
>     allows to declare
>     how the page will look and it make it happen. It also handles
>     bindings events to
>     callbacks. The use of snabbdom is bound to scheme and its use is
>     transparent.
>
>     The first video, I try to explain what tools I will use and sort
>     of why. It's not
>     very interesting https://youtu.be/i47QgE0ihSw
>
>     The second video, I tackle an issue in forward.scm, basically I am
>     bug hunting in
>     the browser: https://youtu.be/to8vdri82_E
>
>     The last is the most interesing, it restart where I left it in the
>     previous video
>     with basically a minimal frontend (so you might want to look at
>     the 20 last minutes
>     of the second video). Anyway, then it goes on to allow the
>     frontend (client side)
>     to communicate with the backend (server side) using HTTP:
>     https://youtu.be/ePiHp1lgbas
>
>     The code can be found @ https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul
>     <https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul>
>
>     azul means "hello" in amazigh.
>
>     Happy hacking!
>
>     ~ amz3 ~ http://hyperdev.fr
>
>
>

Re: Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

[Nala Ginrut]

I'm planning to add Scheme web front-end stuff to let Artanis do every web
thing in Scheme.
Is it too extremist ?  : -P
But nowadays we have WASM, JavaScript is not needed as the high level
language anymore.




2017年5月8日 20:53，"Amirouche" <amirouche@hypermove.net>写道：

>
>
> Le 06/05/2017 à 21:18, Nala Ginrut a écrit :
>
>> Oh I'd love to see someone write web front-end with Scheme. Good job !
>>
>>
>>
> I will see what new artanis will be out :)
>
> Tx!
>
>
>> 2017年5月7日 02:47，"Amirouche" <amirouche@hypermove.net <mailto:
>> amirouche@hypermove.net>>写道：
>>
>>     I made a screencast explaining how I would start building a poll
>>     application
>>     using by favorite tools of the moment.
>>
>>     There GNU Guile in the backend using the new guile-fibers to run
>>     the http server
>>     workers.
>>
>>     In the frontend I use BiwaScheme with snabbdom library for
>>     interacting with the
>>     browser.
>>
>>     BiwaScheme is a Scheme interpreter written in JavaScript.
>>
>>     Snabbdom is library that implement a diff+patch algorithm which
>>     allows to declare
>>     how the page will look and it make it happen. It also handles
>>     bindings events to
>>     callbacks. The use of snabbdom is bound to scheme and its use is
>>     transparent.
>>
>>     The first video, I try to explain what tools I will use and sort
>>     of why. It's not
>>     very interesting https://youtu.be/i47QgE0ihSw
>>
>>     The second video, I tackle an issue in forward.scm, basically I am
>>     bug hunting in
>>     the browser: https://youtu.be/to8vdri82_E
>>
>>     The last is the most interesing, it restart where I left it in the
>>     previous video
>>     with basically a minimal frontend (so you might want to look at
>>     the 20 last minutes
>>     of the second video). Anyway, then it goes on to allow the
>>     frontend (client side)
>>     to communicate with the backend (server side) using HTTP:
>>     https://youtu.be/ePiHp1lgbas
>>
>>     The code can be found @ https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul
>>     <https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul>
>>
>>     azul means "hello" in amazigh.
>>
>>     Happy hacking!
>>
>>     ~ amz3 ~ http://hyperdev.fr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

[Erik Edrosa]

WASM is still pretty far off to be a full replacement of what JavaScript
currently does in the browser. It would be interesting to have a scheme
web front-end for Artanis, it will be like using Clojure for the
back-end and ClojureScript for the front-end.

On 05/08/2017 10:55 AM, Nala Ginrut wrote:
> I'm planning to add Scheme web front-end stuff to let Artanis do every web
> thing in Scheme.
> Is it too extremist ?  : -P
> But nowadays we have WASM, JavaScript is not needed as the high level
> language anymore.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2017年5月8日 20:53，"Amirouche" <amirouche@hypermove.net>写道：
> 
>>
>>
>> Le 06/05/2017 à 21:18, Nala Ginrut a écrit :
>>
>>> Oh I'd love to see someone write web front-end with Scheme. Good job !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I will see what new artanis will be out :)
>>
>> Tx!
>>
>>
>>> 2017年5月7日 02:47，"Amirouche" <amirouche@hypermove.net <mailto:
>>> amirouche@hypermove.net>>写道：
>>>
>>>     I made a screencast explaining how I would start building a poll
>>>     application
>>>     using by favorite tools of the moment.
>>>
>>>     There GNU Guile in the backend using the new guile-fibers to run
>>>     the http server
>>>     workers.
>>>
>>>     In the frontend I use BiwaScheme with snabbdom library for
>>>     interacting with the
>>>     browser.
>>>
>>>     BiwaScheme is a Scheme interpreter written in JavaScript.
>>>
>>>     Snabbdom is library that implement a diff+patch algorithm which
>>>     allows to declare
>>>     how the page will look and it make it happen. It also handles
>>>     bindings events to
>>>     callbacks. The use of snabbdom is bound to scheme and its use is
>>>     transparent.
>>>
>>>     The first video, I try to explain what tools I will use and sort
>>>     of why. It's not
>>>     very interesting https://youtu.be/i47QgE0ihSw
>>>
>>>     The second video, I tackle an issue in forward.scm, basically I am
>>>     bug hunting in
>>>     the browser: https://youtu.be/to8vdri82_E
>>>
>>>     The last is the most interesing, it restart where I left it in the
>>>     previous video
>>>     with basically a minimal frontend (so you might want to look at
>>>     the 20 last minutes
>>>     of the second video). Anyway, then it goes on to allow the
>>>     frontend (client side)
>>>     to communicate with the backend (server side) using HTTP:
>>>     https://youtu.be/ePiHp1lgbas
>>>
>>>     The code can be found @ https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul
>>>     <https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul>
>>>
>>>     azul means "hello" in amazigh.
>>>
>>>     Happy hacking!
>>>
>>>     ~ amz3 ~ http://hyperdev.fr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

[Nala Ginrut]

Agreed!

2017年5月10日 12:09，"Erik Edrosa" <erik.edrosa@gmail.com>写道：

> WASM is still pretty far off to be a full replacement of what JavaScript
> currently does in the browser. It would be interesting to have a scheme
> web front-end for Artanis, it will be like using Clojure for the
> back-end and ClojureScript for the front-end.
>
> On 05/08/2017 10:55 AM, Nala Ginrut wrote:
> > I'm planning to add Scheme web front-end stuff to let Artanis do every
> web
> > thing in Scheme.
> > Is it too extremist ?  : -P
> > But nowadays we have WASM, JavaScript is not needed as the high level
> > language anymore.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017年5月8日 20:53，"Amirouche" <amirouche@hypermove.net>写道：
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 06/05/2017 à 21:18, Nala Ginrut a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Oh I'd love to see someone write web front-end with Scheme. Good job !
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I will see what new artanis will be out :)
> >>
> >> Tx!
> >>
> >>
> >>> 2017年5月7日 02:47，"Amirouche" <amirouche@hypermove.net <mailto:
> >>> amirouche@hypermove.net>>写道：
> >>>
> >>>     I made a screencast explaining how I would start building a poll
> >>>     application
> >>>     using by favorite tools of the moment.
> >>>
> >>>     There GNU Guile in the backend using the new guile-fibers to run
> >>>     the http server
> >>>     workers.
> >>>
> >>>     In the frontend I use BiwaScheme with snabbdom library for
> >>>     interacting with the
> >>>     browser.
> >>>
> >>>     BiwaScheme is a Scheme interpreter written in JavaScript.
> >>>
> >>>     Snabbdom is library that implement a diff+patch algorithm which
> >>>     allows to declare
> >>>     how the page will look and it make it happen. It also handles
> >>>     bindings events to
> >>>     callbacks. The use of snabbdom is bound to scheme and its use is
> >>>     transparent.
> >>>
> >>>     The first video, I try to explain what tools I will use and sort
> >>>     of why. It's not
> >>>     very interesting https://youtu.be/i47QgE0ihSw
> >>>
> >>>     The second video, I tackle an issue in forward.scm, basically I am
> >>>     bug hunting in
> >>>     the browser: https://youtu.be/to8vdri82_E
> >>>
> >>>     The last is the most interesing, it restart where I left it in the
> >>>     previous video
> >>>     with basically a minimal frontend (so you might want to look at
> >>>     the 20 last minutes
> >>>     of the second video). Anyway, then it goes on to allow the
> >>>     frontend (client side)
> >>>     to communicate with the backend (server side) using HTTP:
> >>>     https://youtu.be/ePiHp1lgbas
> >>>
> >>>     The code can be found @ https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul
> >>>     <https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul>
> >>>
> >>>     azul means "hello" in amazigh.
> >>>
> >>>     Happy hacking!
> >>>
> >>>     ~ amz3 ~ http://hyperdev.fr
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

[Amirouche Boubekki]

On 2017-05-10 06:15, Nala Ginrut wrote:
> Agreed!
> 
> 2017年5月10日 12:09，"Erik Edrosa"
> <erik.edrosa@gmail.com>写道：
> 

[...]

>> It would be interesting to have a
>> scheme
>> web front-end for Artanis, it will be like using Clojure for the
>> back-end and ClojureScript for the front-end.
>> 

That's what I am building afaiu.

-- 
Amirouche ~ amz3 ~ http://www.hyperdev.fr

Re: Getting started web developpement with GNU Guile (with guile fibers) and BiwaScheme

[Amirouche]

Here is a playlist for the screncast

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_jCPpfzyfeqqEcioz71x5XvXnq9UABdK


Le 06/05/2017 à 20:47, Amirouche a écrit :
> I made a screencast explaining how I would start building a poll 
> application
> using by favorite tools of the moment.
>
> There GNU Guile in the backend using the new guile-fibers to run the 
> http server
> workers.
>
> In the frontend I use BiwaScheme with snabbdom library for interacting 
> with the
> browser.
>
> BiwaScheme is a Scheme interpreter written in JavaScript.
>
> Snabbdom is library that implement a diff+patch algorithm which allows 
> to declare
> how the page will look and it make it happen. It also handles bindings 
> events to
> callbacks. The use of snabbdom is bound to scheme and its use is 
> transparent.
>
> The first video, I try to explain what tools I will use and sort of 
> why. It's not
> very interesting https://youtu.be/i47QgE0ihSw
>
> The second video, I tackle an issue in forward.scm, basically I am bug 
> hunting in
> the browser: https://youtu.be/to8vdri82_E
>
> The last is the most interesing, it restart where I left it in the 
> previous video
> with basically a minimal frontend (so you might want to look at the 20 
> last minutes
> of the second video). Anyway, then it goes on to allow the frontend 
> (client side)
> to communicate with the backend (server side) using HTTP: 
> https://youtu.be/ePiHp1lgbas
>
> The code can be found @ https://framagit.org/a-guile-mind/azul
>
> azul means "hello" in amazigh.
>
> Happy hacking!
>
> ~ amz3 ~ http://hyperdev.fr
>