From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?VsOtdG9yIERlIEFyYcO6am8=?= Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: How to make GNU Guile more successful Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 23:08:07 -0300 Message-ID: <58C20A87.9010908@sapo.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489111731 30697 195.159.176.226 (10 Mar 2017 02:08:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 02:08:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 10 03:08:45 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cm9yy-0006qA-MG for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 03:08:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37029 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cm9z4-0000xd-LT for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:08:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33029) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cm9yg-0000xX-S1 for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:08:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cm9yc-0002DX-T5 for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:08:22 -0500 Original-Received: from relay5.ptmail.sapo.pt ([212.55.154.25]:46351 helo=sapo.pt) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cm9yc-0002Cu-Hw for guile-user@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:08:18 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 27188 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2017 02:08:14 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29990 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2017 02:08:13 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.0.12]) (vbuaraujo@sapo.pt@[201.37.160.110]) (envelope-sender ) by ptmail-mta-auth02 (qmail-ptmail-1.0.0) with ESMTPSA for ; 10 Mar 2017 02:08:13 -0000 X-PTMail-RemoteIP: 201.37.160.110 X-PTMail-AllowedSender-Action: X-PTMail-Service: default Original-References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.55.154.25 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:13466 Archived-At: Hi, I'm relatively new to Guile and new to this list, but I saw this thread in the archives and I'd like to make some comments. First, I think it would be nice to have a Guile wiki, in the likes of cliki.net. A publicly-editable reference place where people can share knowledge about Guile and Guile libraries and projects. Sure, having a centralized package manager/repository would be nice, but just having a common place where people can look up what libraries exist and where they can be downloaded would be nice. (I don't know how easy would it be to set up a wiki at the Guile website.) On the topic of package management, I think that, more important than a central repository, is a standard format in which to distribute packages for easy installation. I've never used guildhall, and I guess it defines something like this, but I think just having an installation command where you can pass the URL of a package to download and install (say, guild install http://some.url/somepackage.zip, or even a git URL) would already go a long way towards making it easier for people to use third-party libraries in Guile. (Or maybe package _names_ could be URLs pointing to an index in a well-defined format, which tells how to download each version of a package; then we could have even dependency management without a central repository. I'm pipe-dreaming here, though.) Best regards, Vítor De Araújo -- Vítor De Araújo http://inf.ufrgs.br/~vbuaraujo