From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: HiPhish Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: A value for "nothing" Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 00:16:00 +0200 Message-ID: <5574134.pfRWaXeVbk@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> References: <874leq4ntg.fsf@fcs20.keithdiane.us> <0CB424B1-AA09-48BB-8C96-DD3511556422@poseur.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1537050412 10166 195.159.176.226 (15 Sep 2018 22:26:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 22:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org To: Edwin Watkeys Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 16 00:26:47 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g1J1b-0002Wf-6p for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 00:26:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56939 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1J3h-0001sw-R0 for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:28:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42083) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1J2Z-000127-M0 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1IrE-0000e3-Fp for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:56570) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g1IrC-0000cX-Mn for guile-user@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Sep 2018 18:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BD9D21108 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 00:16:01 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.de; s=2017; t=1537049761; bh=Njwz+KwdtcTO2kwJILf88wdGnh+O0SoiqbGD7mJxxXY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=hgAi8/rx6NueIwCK9oo2V9H+S9yl4OjFgmHaWYbnM1laMB849Nd3YQzJ7Gl/RinUp /liLtm2u47fNiazq/MRB7+ND91mSmoMvQ4TfWmBvY4if/k1BwPs3CXC2pGaK04BnOX XCOoJjdFmYWNJqZuFITY0led49+HL898sqf3z87ifx5bWt+0ZZDApG4HXh9WP5Hoyu WA1s/+1kPIt3ki87dARrwLvYmFzdIt2QDKfbcEGAGIeb6hcFU97freSucjXde3csQG Gu1d1M+bQgFzyO/M0vrEbm3EVtogpm63xMWA8wmOXCq/OBmgiuzndB5z3AJwVOQ5r6 fy0ZicjSGXu4A== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 42CRYD5mfQz6tm7; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 00:16:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <0CB424B1-AA09-48BB-8C96-DD3511556422@poseur.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 185.67.36.65 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:14882 Archived-At: "Not available" makes it sound like there something we cannot get a hold of= =2E=20 Like you have a bag, but the contents of the bag are stuck to it, whereas=20 "nothing" makes me think of a bag that's actually empty. Edwin Watkeys wrote: > In previous work on validated systems in pharma manufacturing monitoring > settings, there=E2=80=99s the concept of not available (=E2=80=9CNAV=E2= =80=9D) for measurements > which is used in contrast to not applicable (=E2=80=9CNA=E2=80=9D). We ne= ver used null/nil > but always one of the above when describing measurements. >=20 > Edwin Watkeys; 917-324-2435.