From: Ken Anderson <kanderson@bbn.com>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org,
Timothy Hickey <timhickey@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Guile and MS-Windows on Major Govt. Project...
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 18:11:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20020706175041.0246dec0@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3D265661.9030201@bitmead.com>
At 10:30 PM 7/5/2002, Chris Bitmead wrote:
>>>Yeah, ok well they should be considered. But jscheme is an interpreter
>>>within an interpreter == unnecessarily slow. None of them technically
>>>are Scheme (no call/cc, blurry picture on full tail calls etc).
>>
>>
>>I'm curious what you actually want to have full call/cc for - except as a
>>"check-off (completeness) item.
>
>
>As far as I know, I don't. Does anyone know prior to starting a project if
>it is needed? Also, what if I pull in an external library that uses it?
>Ok, I'm not quite experienced enough in Scheme to know how likely that is.
I'm a beginner too, having only done Scheme for the past 4.5 years. To
make it worse, my scheme never had call/cc, so i never learned how to take
advantage of it. My current belief is that if your Scheme has full call/cc,
you just use it. If it doesn't, you make do without it, because that's
what you do in any language that's missing the feature you want.
Dick Gabriel made a comment about Scheme once, that suggested to me that
without call/cc Scheme is relatively easy to implement in languages like C
and Java. Requiring call/cc is an extra step in language
implementation. Probably a step as least as large as requiring
GC. Perhaps we are currently more willing to live without call/cc than we
are about living without GC.
We need to provide good examples of using call/cc, so that future
implementations will be more willing to provide it.
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Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <3D1B1DCD.7090500@bitmead.com>
2002-06-28 1:49 ` Guile and MS-Windows on Major Govt. Project Bruce Korb
[not found] ` <3D1BC0B9.282F1F21@pacbell.net>
2002-06-28 5:51 ` Chris Bitmead
[not found] ` <3D1BF96A.1030101@bitmead.com>
2002-06-29 2:01 ` Christopher Cramer
2002-06-29 3:32 ` Guile and MS-Windows / GTK+ Chris Bitmead
[not found] ` <3D1D2A5C.2040307@bitmead.com>
2002-07-09 21:17 ` Neil Jerram
[not found] ` <m3vg7oak1l.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-10 0:40 ` Chris Bitmead
2002-07-01 3:46 ` Guile and MS-Windows on Major Govt. Project Clinton Ebadi
[not found] ` <200206302346.11902.unknown_lamer@unknownlamer.org>
2002-07-01 23:09 ` Chris Bitmead
[not found] ` <3D20E140.6050003@bitmead.com>
2002-07-02 1:13 ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-07-02 14:41 ` Chris Bitmead
[not found] ` <3D21BBB0.6000302@bitmead.com>
2002-07-02 15:29 ` Ken Anderson
[not found] ` <5.0.2.1.2.20020702112242.00b16ad0@zima.bbn.com>
2002-07-03 12:47 ` Chris Bitmead
[not found] ` <5.0.2.1.2.20020703085953.026d4b80@zima.bbn.com>
2002-07-03 14:10 ` Chris Bitmead
[not found] ` <3D22F264.9010502@bitmead.com>
2002-07-03 13:27 ` Ken Anderson
2002-07-05 20:21 ` Per Bothner
[not found] ` <3D25FFB4.9060500@bothner.com>
2002-07-06 2:30 ` Chris Bitmead
[not found] ` <3D265661.9030201@bitmead.com>
2002-07-06 22:11 ` Ken Anderson [this message]
2002-07-08 21:53 ` Christopher Cramer
2002-07-07 15:35 ` Per Bothner
2002-06-28 8:11 Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2002-06-28 22:14 ` David Lane
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2002-06-27 14:14 Chris Bitmead
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