* Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5
@ 2006-04-19 19:22 Olwe Bottorff
2006-04-19 19:40 ` Ken Raeburn
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From: Olwe Bottorff @ 2006-04-19 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
I've apparently got basic guile (1.6.7) on my new
Fed5, but it can't see/find anything else such as
guile-config or libguile.h or, or, or....i.e., can't
follow along with the "book" on embedding guile in C.
Next tried to install a new version (1.8) but the
./configure complains:
configure: error: libltdl not found. See README.
I supposedly have libtools 1.5.22... on my machine.
Any ideas? I could really use a basic install gameplan
for this Fedora thingy, a non-Debian Linux.
Olwe
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* Re: Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5
2006-04-19 19:22 Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5 Olwe Bottorff
@ 2006-04-19 19:40 ` Ken Raeburn
2006-04-19 19:48 ` Olwe Bottorff
2006-04-25 5:04 ` Jon Wilson
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From: Ken Raeburn @ 2006-04-19 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: guile-user
On Apr 19, 2006, at 15:22, Olwe Bottorff wrote:
> I've apparently got basic guile (1.6.7) on my new
> Fed5, but it can't see/find anything else such as
> guile-config or libguile.h or, or, or....i.e., can't
> follow along with the "book" on embedding guile in C.
See if there's a "guile-devel" package you can install.
Ken
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* Re: Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5
2006-04-19 19:22 Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5 Olwe Bottorff
2006-04-19 19:40 ` Ken Raeburn
@ 2006-04-19 19:48 ` Olwe Bottorff
2006-04-20 7:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2006-04-25 5:04 ` Jon Wilson
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From: Olwe Bottorff @ 2006-04-19 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
Okay, found /usr/share/libtools and found libltdl
source. Compiled and installed. (Odd, why wasn't it
already installed, Fedora?) Now guile 1.8 ./configure
was happy and so was the glorious make. But I hesitate
before make install. I tried a rpm -e of the default
Fed5 guile1.6.7, but it complained of dependencies to
a whole raft of Gnomeware. Q: If I do make install on
my 1.8, do I hose myself? Is there a way to install
1.8 into a sandbox of sorts?
Olwe
--- Olwe Bottorff <galanolwe@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've apparently got basic guile (1.6.7) on my new
> Fed5, but it can't see/find anything else such as
> guile-config or libguile.h or, or, or....i.e., can't
> follow along with the "book" on embedding guile in
> C.
>
> Next tried to install a new version (1.8) but the
> ./configure complains:
>
> configure: error: libltdl not found. See README.
>
> I supposedly have libtools 1.5.22... on my machine.
> Any ideas? I could really use a basic install
> gameplan
> for this Fedora thingy, a non-Debian Linux.
>
> Olwe
>
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* Re: Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5
2006-04-19 19:48 ` Olwe Bottorff
@ 2006-04-20 7:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
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From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2006-04-20 7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: guile-user
Hi,
Olwe Bottorff <galanolwe@yahoo.com> writes:
> Is there a way to install
> 1.8 into a sandbox of sorts?
As with all GNU software, you can choose a different installation path
and maybe even a different executable suffix to make sure that your two
versions of Guile can coexist. For example:
$ ./configure --program-suffix=-1.8 && make
This will put Guile in (subdirs of) `/usr/local' and all its executables
(i.e., `guile', `guile-config', `guile-tools', etc.) will have a name
suffixed by `-1.8'. This way, you can keep your hand-compiled 1.8 along
with the package-provided 1.6.
Thanks,
Ludovic.
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* Re: Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5
2006-04-19 19:22 Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5 Olwe Bottorff
2006-04-19 19:40 ` Ken Raeburn
2006-04-19 19:48 ` Olwe Bottorff
@ 2006-04-25 5:04 ` Jon Wilson
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From: Jon Wilson @ 2006-04-25 5:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hi Olwe,
Just as a note, probably many people have told you this already, but Fedora
is not your best bet for a newbie. Redhat is focused very firmly on the
server/enterprise market, and has said that they don't really care all that
much about the desktop. Meaning, of course, that their desktop offering
isn't that great comparatively. They're well known, unfortunately, and
many people looking to try linux think "Ok, Redhat. Erm. Fedora then."
and then get confused and frustrated and leave.
I'd try one of the debian types, like Ubuntu, or else Mandriva. Both
Ubuntu and Mandriva are somewhat geared toward ease of use and are good for
newbies. YMMV, but in general, doing things like installing packages is
much easier in one of those than in Fedora. That said, most of us are
perfectly willing to help you with Fedora as well, if that is your preference.
Best of luck to you!
Regards,
Jon
Olwe Bottorff wrote:
> I've apparently got basic guile (1.6.7) on my new
> Fed5, but it can't see/find anything else such as
> guile-config or libguile.h or, or, or....i.e., can't
> follow along with the "book" on embedding guile in C.
>
> Next tried to install a new version (1.8) but the
> ./configure complains:
>
> configure: error: libltdl not found. See README.
>
> I supposedly have libtools 1.5.22... on my machine.
> Any ideas? I could really use a basic install gameplan
> for this Fedora thingy, a non-Debian Linux.
>
> Olwe
>
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* RE: Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5
@ 2006-04-25 16:11 Norton, Jack
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From: Norton, Jack @ 2006-04-25 16:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Olwe,
If you have a reasonably powerful machine, try Gentoo linux. People get scared of the idea of a source based distro, but I feel there is no better way to learn than stumbling through the Gentoo Handbook (which is primo). There is linux et al, and then there is Red Hat et al.
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From: guile-user-bounces+jack_norton=baylor.edu@gnu.org on behalf of Jon Wilson
Sent: Tue 4/25/2006 12:04 AM
To: guile-user
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to use/install on Fedora 5
Hi Olwe,
Just as a note, probably many people have told you this already, but Fedora
is not your best bet for a newbie. Redhat is focused very firmly on the
server/enterprise market, and has said that they don't really care all that
much about the desktop. Meaning, of course, that their desktop offering
isn't that great comparatively. They're well known, unfortunately, and
many people looking to try linux think "Ok, Redhat. Erm. Fedora then."
and then get confused and frustrated and leave.
I'd try one of the debian types, like Ubuntu, or else Mandriva. Both
Ubuntu and Mandriva are somewhat geared toward ease of use and are good for
newbies. YMMV, but in general, doing things like installing packages is
much easier in one of those than in Fedora. That said, most of us are
perfectly willing to help you with Fedora as well, if that is your preference.
Best of luck to you!
Regards,
Jon
Olwe Bottorff wrote:
> I've apparently got basic guile (1.6.7) on my new
> Fed5, but it can't see/find anything else such as
> guile-config or libguile.h or, or, or....i.e., can't
> follow along with the "book" on embedding guile in C.
>
> Next tried to install a new version (1.8) but the
> ./configure complains:
>
> configure: error: libltdl not found. See README.
>
> I supposedly have libtools 1.5.22... on my machine.
> Any ideas? I could really use a basic install gameplan
> for this Fedora thingy, a non-Debian Linux.
>
> Olwe
>
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