Re: Guile

Re: Guile

[Jon Wilson]

Dang it, I always send replies to the poster rather than to the list. 
  My bad.

-------- Original Message --------
Hi Angelyn,
You might get a more helpful response if more pertinent information
were provided.  For example, knowing the conditions under which you
ran ./configure would be very very helpful.  From your post, it is
ambiguous whether the ./configure et al occurs when you are trying to
build and install Guile or Texmacs.  Additionally, is the message from
configure a warning or an error?  I know of no such thing as a warning
error, and which it actually is could be important.  What version of
guile and texmacs are you installing?  Where did you get the source
from?  What did you do with it once you got it (ie, unpacked it
(where?))?  Did you read the INSTALL and README files (if present?)?

As you seem to be new to this, I'll cut you some slack (although
beware, a lot of people won't, not for any reason, ever.), but go read
this: "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" by Eric Raymond, found at
the URL "http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html".

It sounds from what you said like you are missing the readline
library, so it might help to go get that.

"full working installers" are something you don't often see for unix
projects, the whys and wherefores of that are rather complicated and
tend to start flamewars, so lets not go into it.  Furthermore, nobody
here is likely to "send" you anything.  If somebody knows of a "full
working installer", they might point you to it (or more likely say
STFW ("Search The Friendly Web"), but not send it to you.

One thing I notice, you seem to be running configure and make as root,
which is generally considered to be Not A Good Thing.  Run configure
and make as an unprivileged user, and then run make install as root,
IF necessary.  (which it probably is, but give it a shot as
unprivileged first.)

Best of Luck!

Regards,
Jon


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Re: Guile

[Jon Wilson]

Ah, here we go.  This might help you some.  From the Linux 
Documentation Project, at www.tldp.org, we have the Software Building 
HOWTO.
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html

Read.  Be enlightened.

Regards,
Jon

Jon Wilson wrote:
> Dang it, I always send replies to the poster rather than to the list. 
>  My bad.
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Hi Angelyn,
> You might get a more helpful response if more pertinent information
> were provided.  For example, knowing the conditions under which you
> ran ./configure would be very very helpful.  From your post, it is
> ambiguous whether the ./configure et al occurs when you are trying to
> build and install Guile or Texmacs.  Additionally, is the message from
> configure a warning or an error?  I know of no such thing as a warning
> error, and which it actually is could be important.  What version of
> guile and texmacs are you installing?  Where did you get the source
> from?  What did you do with it once you got it (ie, unpacked it
> (where?))?  Did you read the INSTALL and README files (if present?)?
> 
> As you seem to be new to this, I'll cut you some slack (although
> beware, a lot of people won't, not for any reason, ever.), but go read
> this: "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" by Eric Raymond, found at
> the URL "http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html".
> 
> It sounds from what you said like you are missing the readline
> library, so it might help to go get that.
> 
> "full working installers" are something you don't often see for unix
> projects, the whys and wherefores of that are rather complicated and
> tend to start flamewars, so lets not go into it.  Furthermore, nobody
> here is likely to "send" you anything.  If somebody knows of a "full
> working installer", they might point you to it (or more likely say
> STFW ("Search The Friendly Web"), but not send it to you.
> 
> One thing I notice, you seem to be running configure and make as root,
> which is generally considered to be Not A Good Thing.  Run configure
> and make as an unprivileged user, and then run make install as root,
> IF necessary.  (which it probably is, but give it a shot as
> unprivileged first.)
> 
> Best of Luck!
> 
> Regards,
> Jon
> 
> 
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Re: Guile

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

   From: Jon Wilson <j85wilson@fastmail.fm>
   Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:50:50 -0500

   Run configure and make as an unprivileged user, and then run make
   install as root, IF necessary.  (which it probably is, but give it a
   shot as unprivileged first.)

this advice can be extended also to "make install", if the installation
directories are not "system directories".  the approach is to create
"~/local" (in my case, this resolves to "/home/ttn/local") and configure
for, install into, and evaluate safely, software under that directory.
"safely" because you need not worry about damaging the system dirs due
to the fact that you can completely avoid being root.

one-time setup (suitable for ~/.bashrc or the like):
  export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$HOME/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
  export PATH=$HOME/local/bin:$PATH

building software:
  cd [directory where source is expanded from the tarball]
  ./configure --prefix ~/local [other configure options...]
  make
  make check
  make install
  make installcheck

note: in the one-time setup, there is $HOME instead of ~, but the idea
is the same.  of course there is a downside: software that presumes to
be installed in a system directory.  hopefully, those will be few.

thi


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Re: Guile

[Daniel Hartwig]

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On 2 December 2012 04:30, spilledmilkfruitfactories@gmail.com
<spilledmilkfruitfactories@gmail.com> wrote:
> Will Guile be a operating system?

Hi

Guile provides an environment for programs to run; those programs can
be written in a variety of high- and low-level languages.  In this
regard it is quite similar to a Smalltalk environment, the Common
Language Runtime [1], the Java Runtime Environment, and other
virtual machines.

There are interfaces for common tasks such as managing processes,
network communication, file storage, etc..

There is nothing that prevents implementing facilities to manage
desktop sessions, disk quotas, software, etc. in Guile, however,
that is really beyond the scope of the project proper.  Guile
provides facilities to create and run programs, it does not attempt
to implement any particular user or system management facilities.

Perhaps one day we will see a system like this in Guile, perhaps
a port of GNU Hurd.

[1] <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8bs2ecf4.aspx>

> Can it be implemented into security encryption software into it's
> own opperating system GUILE, UNIX, LINUX, OSx, Windows.....?

Your question is not clear.  You can write encryption software in
Guile, certainly.  You could also embed a Guile process in to some
existing encryption software.

However, I suppose that you actually mean whether can Guile be used
to implement security and access restrictions for users and programs.
In short, yes, it can, but again, not really within the scope of the
project.

The security model provided by Guile is that inherent to it's primary
language Scheme.  This is a capability model [2], where the reference
to an object contains the authority to act on that object in
particular ways.

If this is a topic of interest to you I highly recommend to read the
Rees dissertation [3].

[2] <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?CapabilitySecurityModel>
[3] <http://mumble.net/~jar/pubs/secureos/>

> can i use it to make a software piece similar to firegpg or gpg4win
> with everything like the clip-board are build directly into each
> binary.

Probably.  Though what do you mean, “the clip-board are build directly
into each binary”?

Regards

Re: Guile

[Daniel Hartwig]

On 2 December 2012 12:46, Daniel Hartwig <mandyke@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps one day we will see a system like this in Guile, perhaps
> a port of GNU Hurd.

That is, implemented for the Guile environment, not as part of the
Guile itself.

Guile

[Angelyn V. Dilim]

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Hi,

I am installing Guile which is the prerequisite of Texmacs software after
running the command below;

# ./configure

i read a warning error saying configure WARNING:libreadline is not found on
your system so when i run the command below;

# make

i am getting an error error code 1 make  fatal error : command failed for
target 'all'

then after running;

# make install

i am getting an error;

make fatal error command failed for target 'install-recursive'


If you can send me a full working installer then i would appreciate.

Thanks,
Angelyn








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Re: Guile

[Mike Gran]

Angelyn-

Hi.  Installing programs from the source can be confusing if you don't
have much experience with it.

Before you try installing from source, you should check to see if your
version of GNU/Linux (or whatever operating system you are using) has a
ready-to-install version.  If you are using Redhat or Debian or
whatever, check with them first to see if they have a ready-to-install
pre-compiled version.  Most versions of Linux have Guile packages that
are ready to go.

There is no graphical installer delivered with Guile.  Your operating
system might have a graphical installer available, but, you need to
check there first.

Thanks,

Mike

--- "Angelyn V. Dilim" <angelyndilim@torstencalvi.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am installing Guile which is the prerequisite of Texmacs software
> after
> running the command below;
> 
> # ./configure
> 
> i read a warning error saying configure WARNING:libreadline is not
> found on
> your system so when i run the command below;
> 
> # make
> 
> i am getting an error error code 1 make  fatal error : command failed
> for
> target 'all'
> 
> then after running;
> 
> # make install
> 
> i am getting an error;
> 
> make fatal error command failed for target 'install-recursive'
> 
> 
> If you can send me a full working installer then i would appreciate.
> 
> Thanks,
> Angelyn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > _______________________________________________
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> Guile-user@gnu.org
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> 


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