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From: Lynn Winebarger <owinebar@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: to serialize/deserialize closures; and multithreading
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:11:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <406320D4.4030102@indiana.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4063144B.8050705@indiana.edu


On the other hand, you could just rely on guile's printer/reader
syntax and use that on the environment to export it and the
global variables.  I don't know if it prints everything in a
uniquely readable way, but it should handle standard scheme
that way.
    And environments in guile (last time I looked at the
evaluator) really are just binding lists. With deBruijn indices.
I can't remember exactly.  Use the source.

Lynn

Lynn Winebarger wrote:
> It's an interesting question all right.  What's the purpose of the
> "migration"?
>    Technically speaking, a closure is just a pair of pointers to its 
> code and
> its environment.  You could create a new "foreign reference" type (tag) 
> that
> would cause these to be looked up on the original computer whenever you 
> needed
> them.  That would handle synchronization.  Of course, you could also 
> make copies
> of everything.  I think tags are constant over all architechtures (last 
> I looked)
> but there are run-time allocated types that you'd have to do some work for
> (I think - I don't remember what they're called).
>    Anyway, besides taking care of the tags/synchronizing run-time 
> allocated types/
> handling endianness issues, you'd need to munge pointers according to 
> whereever
> they would be newly allocated on the new machine.  It would probably be 
> easiest
> to just number copies of the cells from 0 to whatever for the transport 
> over and the
> allocator on the other end could relabel them to the actual values.
>    Also, you'd need to check that any symbols referenced by the code or 
> variables were
> actually in existence in the new guile instance's symbol table.  And 
> that global
> variables referenced by the code got copied (as well as the lexical 
> variables).
> So will be recursively nasty.
> 
> Good Luck.
> 
> Lynn
> 
> Greg Troxel wrote:
> 
>>   1. If I have a scheme value that is a closure, is there any way that 
>> I can
>>   serialize this closure (from C code) into a form that it can be
>>   deserialized back into a SCM closure variable (again, by C code)?  I 
>> can
>>   assume for this question that both ends of the serial line are 
>> running the
>>   same version of gnu guile and my software, but cannot assume that both
>>   ends are running on the same computer architecture.  Would it instead
>>   only be possible for me to transfer closures as their scheme source.
>>
>> I'm not even sure it is well-defined what it means to migrate a
>> closure.  Should a mutation on the new computer of a captured variable
>> affect the old computer?
>>
> 
> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-25 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-25  6:19 to serialize/deserialize closures; and multithreading Nicholas Paul Johnson
2004-03-25  6:43 ` Paul Jarc
2004-03-25 12:40 ` Greg Troxel
2004-03-25 17:18   ` Lynn Winebarger
2004-03-25 18:11     ` Lynn Winebarger [this message]
2004-03-25 19:55     ` Paul Jarc
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-25 22:38 Faraz Shahbazker
2004-03-26 13:05 ` rm
2004-03-26 15:22   ` Nicholas Paul Johnson
2004-03-26 20:02 Faraz Shahbazker
2004-03-26 20:35 ` Andreas Rottmann

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