updated broken links on guile project pages

updated broken links on guile project pages

[Thomas Kappler]

Hello,


from the projects page [1]: "To contribute, ask for instructions on the
guile-user mailing list." So I do:

Recently I looked around on the guile website [1] and found that many of
the projects on the projects page [2] don't exist anymore or have moved.
I hunted down a few of them in which I was interested, googling and
mailing with the maintainers.

Where to send that? In case someone who can do something with the
information reads here, it's below.

Unfortunately I didn't read this until now:
"Right now, the list pretty much unmaintained and likely contains
outdated information. We will move this list over to the Free Software
Directory  soonish."
because when you click on "Core" on the navigation panel, the top of the
projects page is already scrolled out the browser window. But I think
the information is also valuable for the Directory.


Please CC me.

Greetings,
Thomas

[1] http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/gnu-guile-projects.html



Here are the results:


guile-gtk
    was: http://www.ping.de/sites/zagadka/guile-gtk/
    is:  http://www.gnu.org/software/guile-gtk/


galway
    was: http://erin.netpedia.net/
    is: Seems to have disappeared.


gush
    was: http://www.glug.org/people/ttn/software/gush/
    is: dead. ttn pointed me to Gordon Matzigkeit, and Gordon said
that 			the entry should be deleted.


(net http)
    was: http://evan.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/software/net-http/
    is: disappeared...
         I figured that because the whole *san-francisco.ca.us is
         unreachable, the mail adress evan@prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us
         would not work, too. So I left a note on his WikiTravel UserTalk
         page, which he apparently visits often, but he did not answer.
         http://www.wikitravel.org/en/article/\
                 User_talk:Evan#Looking_for_(net_http)_(guile)


ScIRC
    was: http://forcix.cx/scirc.html
    is: dead.
         I mailed forcer, and he told me
         "ScIRC is dead and buried, and that for quite some time now
         (my old copy here is from 1998!). Feel free to delete the
         entry."


scwm
    was: http://scwm.mit.edu/
    is: no website found, but the (apparently) latest distribution can
         be found here:
         http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/project/windowmgr/src/scwm-0.9/


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Re: updated broken links on guile project pages

[Alexandre Duret-Lutz]

On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 02:10:25PM +0100, Thomas Kappler wrote:
>
> scwm
>    was: http://scwm.mit.edu/
>    is: no website found, but the (apparently) latest distribution can
>         be found here:
>         http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/project/windowmgr/src/scwm-0.9/

http://scwm.sourceforge.net/

Unfortunately no longer maintained.  I've been using scwm until last
year, and have now switched to sawfish because rebuilding guile-1.3
for scwm is troublesome.


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Re: updated broken links on guile project pages

[Dale P. Smith]

Thomas Kappler <thomas.kappler@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:

> scwm
>     was: http://scwm.mit.edu/
>     is: no website found, but the (apparently) latest distribution can
>          be found here:
>          http://www.mit.edu/afs/athena/project/windowmgr/src/scwm-0.9/

This can now be found at http://sourceforge.net/projects/scwm/ and
http://scwm.sourceforge.net/ 

-Dale

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Re: updated broken links on guile project pages

[Marius Vollmer]

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Thomas Kappler <thomas.kappler@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:

> Recently I looked around on the guile website [1] and found that many of
> the projects on the projects page [2] don't exist anymore or have moved.
> I hunted down a few of them in which I was interested, googling and
> mailing with the maintainers.

Excellent!

> Where to send that? In case someone who can do something with the
> information reads here, it's below.

Errm, my plan was to use the Free Software Dictionary at

    http://www.gnu.org/directory/

as the place to collect information about Guile projects.  I asked
them to create some categories for us, but this hasn't happened yet.
No answers to repeated requests either.  (The last email is attached
below, in case you want to join the process.)

Sooo, yeah, I will try to get that ball rolling again and will then
incorporate your changes...


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Hi,

the Guile developers want to use the Free Software Directory for their
list of 'Projects related to Guile'.  Could you create new categories
for this purpose?  I have attached a patch to the "categrories" file
below.

When you agree to do this, I will send in patches to add existing
entries to their appropriate categories and will ask people to submit
new entries with these categories.  Ok?

Thanks!





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Re: updated broken links on guile project pages

[Marco Parrone]

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Marius Vollmer on Sun, 21 Mar 2004 02:01:14 +0100 writes:

>> Where to send that? In case someone who can do something with the
>> information reads here, it's below.
>
> Errm, my plan was to use the Free Software Dictionary at
>
>     http://www.gnu.org/directory/
>
> as the place to collect information about Guile projects.  I asked
> them to create some categories for us, but this hasn't happened yet.
> No answers to repeated requests either.  (The last email is attached
> below, in case you want to join the process.)
>
> Sooo, yeah, I will try to get that ball rolling again and will then
> incorporate your changes...

IMHO a simpler (and cleaner?) way would be to put the programs in the
existing language-idependent categories, and to mention that the
program is a Guile program in the description, and to put "Guile
Scheme" in the source language field.

Then a simple search would let find Guile Scheme programs and libraries.

Last time I added a program to the directory, filling the template
entry and sending it to the directory, it taked not much time to see
it published, IIRC.

Cheers,
marc0

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Re: updated broken links on guile project pages

[Marius Vollmer]

Marco Parrone <marc0@autistici.org> writes:

>> Errm, my plan was to use the Free Software Dictionary at
>>
>>     http://www.gnu.org/directory/
>>
>> as the place to collect information about Guile projects.  I asked
>> them to create some categories for us, but this hasn't happened yet.
>> No answers to repeated requests either.  (The last email is attached
>> below, in case you want to join the process.)
>>
>> Sooo, yeah, I will try to get that ball rolling again and will then
>> incorporate your changes...
>
> IMHO a simpler (and cleaner?) way would be to put the programs in the
> existing language-idependent categories, and to mention that the
> program is a Guile program in the description, and to put "Guile
> Scheme" in the source language field.

A project can be in more than one category, so you could put it into a
language-independent category and in one of the Guile categories.

> Last time I added a program to the directory, filling the template
> entry and sending it to the directory, it taked not much time to see
> it published, IIRC.

Yeah, I can't get any reaction out of them...

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Re: updated broken links on guile project pages

[Thomas Kappler]

Marius Vollmer wrote:

[Updating links of guile-using projects]
> Excellent!

Thanks, nice to know it's valued.


> Errm, my plan was to use the Free Software Dictionary at
> 
>     http://www.gnu.org/directory/
> 
> as the place to collect information about Guile projects.  I asked
> them to create some categories for us, but this hasn't happened yet.
> No answers to repeated requests either.  (The last email is attached
> below, in case you want to join the process.)

That's not the first the time I hear about this unresponsiveness of the 
GNU webmasters.

An alternative idea would be to migrate the whole thing to a Wiki. Then 
every developer using guile could enter information about the project 
and update it. Of course discipline in such tasks varies among 
developers, but at least the burden would be taken away from the guile 
people, and the up-to-dateness of an entry could be seen as a measure of 
the project's activeness.

Just a suggestion. Unfortunately I can offer hardly any help because I 
never set up a Wiki and also have a quite tight schedule.


Please CC me, I'm not on the list.
Greetings,
Thomas


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