From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Linas Vepstas Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Fwd: [Scheme Steering Committee announcements] New Scheme Language Steering Committee Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:24:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3ae3aa420903080424i655af11cteb9a29ce0f85c234@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ae3aa420903071609s5d9023f1j320adbac8a1a97f@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: linasvepstas@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236511702 20112 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2009 11:28:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:28:22 +0000 (UTC) To: Guile User Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 08 12:29:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LgHCL-0004Db-4F for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:29:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48163 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LgHAy-0003Oz-0U for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:28:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LgH7H-0002pT-Kb for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:24:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LgH7G-0002oc-3G for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:24:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45594 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LgH7F-0002oN-M4 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:24:21 -0400 Original-Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.44.153]:44650) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LgH7F-0006ma-99 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 07:24:21 -0400 Original-Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 34so639260yxf.66 for ; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:24:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sfbr8F+2UsH0MxLic4tt/d2tCLi+ae0QUrXZ/bWTLhA=; b=a8BcayBYBiCcpWtjKSpzTgUpCYaD6ICI+aR+6W3dkm91JgcOAw/ybxdbDQlWVOLm3o oSRIHkXVCQyBKsl7yXuSNIUanMI/QD3L2Xcz98aJLpZZE+SP2aWGTYrNf2eM+C2AieZn 57Q0jxuI0P4O2ay8S1oJJgYKBIdtl8T/uJ5PU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WxtvW606kgvEbJ7ucvmnIL/pF57IbzQKSD15oicYZaDt8oyE9SkCKkFXpn7R70rIOC Rc+XtFU73k7PKqxmAZnKa54+eryrlpX+90vrxfA49VmM/c6XHHoxSDPJZpF2i+s5ca9g SUxFNb6SxKYQ3ZB6Tiadca2ivG7M0dfXY9CUg= Original-Received: by 10.100.110.16 with SMTP id i16mr2941013anc.131.1236511459719; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:24:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3ae3aa420903071609s5d9023f1j320adbac8a1a97f@mail.gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:7169 Archived-At: FYI. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Linas Vepstas Date: 2009/3/7 Subject: Fwd: [Scheme Steering Committee announcements] New Scheme Language Steering Committee To: Mitchell Wand Cc: r6rs-discuss-owner@lists.r6rs.org Thanks, I gave it a try, but the mailing list seems to be user-hostile; contributing to the problem, rather than its solution. =C2=A0Bummer. Could you repost this for me? I assume you have permissions to post there. --linas ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: =C2=A0 Date: 2009/3/7 Subject: Re: [Scheme Steering Committee announcements] New Scheme Language Steering Committee To: linasvepstas@gmail.com You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. =C2=A0If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at r6rs-discuss-owner@lists.r6rs.org. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From:=C2=A0Linas Vepstas To:=C2=A0r6rs-discuss@lists.r6rs.org Date:=C2=A0Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:03:26 -0600 Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Scheme Steering Committee announcements] New Scheme Language Steering Committee ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mitchell Wand Date: 2009/3/7 Subject: Re: [Scheme Steering Committee announcements] New Scheme Language =C2=A0Steering Committee To: linasvepstas@gmail.com Resending... -- linas On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Linas Vepstas wrot= e: > > Hi, > > 2009/3/2 Mitchell Wand : > > I am pleased to officially announce the results of the election for the > > Scheme Language Steering Committee. > > > Thanks to all who voted. I'm not familiar with the work > of the steering committee, and so abstained; however, > as a scheme user, I am very concerned about its status > and future and general social acceptance. > > I interact daily with Java programmers and =C2=A0Python users, > and work on a project whose components are variously > written not only in guile, but also perl, C, C++, SQL, and > of course python, ruby and java. Many people I interact with > do not have a clear idea of what scheme/lisp *is*; and for > some reason there's a slight negative connotation > associated with lisp .. possibly fear; I cannot gauge the > core problem. =C2=A0However, these folks do affect the > decision-making process, and push the project in > various directions. =C2=A0Thus, as a scheme user, it is vital > for me that scheme (guile) have a widespread, positive > perception and acceptance. > > Perception is not enough: I'd like to see the actual fruits: > a large selection of libraries; library repositories analogous > to CPAN; debugging, tracing and performance-tuning =C2=A0tools, > credible integration with other popular technologies, and so > on. =C2=A0Aside from a focus on the core language, stuff like > this is what's needed to make Scheme vibrant; I'd like to > see it happen. > > --linas >