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From: Richard Todd <richardt@vzavenue.net>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org, ttn@glug.org
Subject: Re: First look at Guile Std Library available
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:28:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FF8E7FC.20004@vzavenue.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3ekufawro.fsf@multivac.cwru.edu>

Paul Jarc wrote:
> It's doubtful that incompatible changes will happen to all modules in
> this collection all at the same time.  Coercing them all into a single
> version number/compatibility schedule doesn't seem helpful.

Helpful to whom?  I'd argue that it's extremely helpful to users if they 
only have to deal with "package X requires Guile-Library v1.5 or above", 
rather than "package X requires these versions of these 17 modules: ..."


> I don't think syslog is a good idea regardless of the language.  It's
> more flexible to print logs to stdout/stderr; then it's easy to choose
> another program to add to the pipeline for filtering and storing the
> logs.

If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
(in other words, what does this have to do with the topic at hand???)


> As long as the code exists, I don't think there's much benefit in
> aggregating it.  It just has to be easy for users to find.

Ok, I am definitely starting to feel like a stranger in a strange land, 
here.  If this many people really don't think that guile is missing 
basic library services, maybe it's just not right for guile.  I expected 
several classes of response to this project, but I never anticipated 
that people didn't think it was needed.  Having used many languages over 
the years, to me it stands out as an obvious hole.  But that's just me.

Searching with google, I found a pretty good sounding proposal from 2001 
by Martin Grabmueller for reorganizing ice-9 into a hierarchy a lot like 
what I was working towards.  It even happened to have some of the same 
names like (math primes) in it!  It was addressing other topics I have 
yet to bring up, but planned to, such as putting srfi capabilities in 
named modules and making (srfi srfi-XX) the alternate interface.

What happened to that?  Based on the surrounding messages it seemed to 
be received well.  Nearly three years have passed...
(http://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2001-03/msg00116.html)

Richard Todd




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  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-05  4:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-02  5:21 First look at Guile Std Library available Richard Todd
2004-01-02  9:29 ` Dale Mellor
2004-01-03  1:03   ` Richard Todd
2004-01-03  2:25     ` Andreas Rottmann
2004-01-03 15:00       ` Dale Mellor
2004-01-03 14:36     ` Dale Mellor
2004-01-03 22:42       ` Richard Todd
2004-01-03 16:38 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-01-03 16:48   ` Nic Ferrier
2004-01-03 22:18     ` Richard Todd
2004-01-04  1:49       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-01-04  3:50         ` Richard Todd
2004-01-04 12:59           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
     [not found]             ` <16376.5782.10995.206284@l.a>
2004-01-04 14:17               ` Dale Mellor
2004-01-04 21:51             ` Richard Todd
2004-01-05  0:30               ` Andreas Rottmann
2004-01-05  5:00                 ` Richard Todd
2004-01-05 16:03                   ` Robert Uhl
2004-01-05 20:01                     ` Richard Todd
2004-01-06  1:36                       ` Robert Uhl
2004-01-06 18:41                         ` number->string radix patch (Was Re: First look at Guile Std Library available) Richard Todd
2004-01-07  4:04                           ` Robert Uhl
2004-01-07  5:26                             ` Richard Todd
2004-01-07 20:54                               ` Robert Uhl
2004-01-08  7:11                                 ` I get unknown immediate error in guile 1.7 Roland Orre
2004-01-08 17:14                                   ` Roland Orre
2004-01-10 20:17                                     ` Kevin Ryde
2004-05-10 20:34                           ` number->string radix patch Marius Vollmer
2004-05-11  3:16                             ` Richard Todd
2004-05-11  3:51                             ` Keith Wright
2004-05-27 21:56                               ` Kevin Ryde
2004-06-10 16:35                                 ` Marius Vollmer
2004-06-10 16:34                               ` Marius Vollmer
2004-05-11  5:23                             ` Richard Todd
2004-05-27 21:54                               ` Kevin Ryde
2004-06-10 16:47                               ` Marius Vollmer
2004-06-11  1:40                                 ` Kevin Ryde
2004-01-05 10:08                 ` First look at Guile Std Library available Dale Mellor
2004-01-05  3:39               ` Paul Jarc
2004-01-05  4:28                 ` Richard Todd [this message]
2004-01-05  5:19                   ` Paul Jarc
2004-01-06 22:25                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2004-01-06 23:53                     ` Richard Todd
2004-01-16 20:17                   ` Andy Wingo
2004-01-05 14:00               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-01-05 20:32                 ` Richard Todd
2004-01-05 20:59                   ` Dale P. Smith
2004-01-06 16:54                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-01-06 20:32                     ` Richard Todd
2004-01-03 18:19   ` Clinton Ebadi
2004-01-03 20:12     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-01-04  2:02     ` Richard Todd
2004-01-06 20:42       ` Richard Todd
2004-01-06 21:20         ` Paul Jarc
2004-01-03 22:52   ` Richard Todd
2004-01-04  1:53     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-01-04 20:34 ` Arno Peters
2004-01-05 20:12   ` Richard Todd

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