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From: Jan Wedekind <jan@wedesoft.de>
To: Panicz Maciej Godek <godek.maciek@gmail.com>,Cao Jin <lop@null.net>
Cc: "guile-user@gnu.org" <guile-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [ANN] An impudent introduction to Guile
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2016 10:18:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a52a201-45c5-4a0a-9ef7-683e13636138@email.android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMFYt2Y1JN8jchK8nUUaXv8HtM+kuJuYSJdGRrJrJZR0Qh-k5Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 6. Februar 2016 06:08:42 GMT+00:00, Panicz Maciej Godek <godek.maciek@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hi
>
>2016-02-06 1:47 GMT+01:00 Cao Jin <lop@null.net>:
>
>> It's interesting. I have used Matlab for many years, but never tried
>R. As
>> for as I know, there are tons of state-of-the-art library in R and
>Matlab.
>>
>> After skimming your paper, I wander that
>> 1) Are these library used in your code example implemented by
>yourself? Or
>> other libraries are called, such as LAPACK for linear algebra?
>>
>
>Everything is either written from scratch, or uses one of the helper
>libraries (two such libraries are included in the repo; the other is
>SRFI-1).
>The point of the book is that it is not a tutorial on using libraries,
>but
>it explains some methods and translates these explanations to Scheme,
>so
>that they can be modified and extended easily.
>
>If you are looking  for some serious numerical libraries for Scheme,
>there's a very powerful scmutils package available
>
>http://www.cs.rochester.edu/~gildea/guile-scmutils/
>
>I've actually used its code for Singular Value Decomposition to perform
>Principal Component Analysis.
>
>2) Is it easy to use scheme and your library, or maybe some others, to
>do
>> computational job? In practice, those who use R or Matlab want their
>idea
>> to be proved quickly, not to spend time on coding style, right?
>>
>> I think it depends on a point of view. I initially tried using R, but
>it
>was causing many unexpected problems, but I already knew Scheme quite
>well,
>and for me even implementing the libraries from scratch wasn't that
>much
>of  a job.
>But the book is mostly about fun, and about understanding.
>Also, interfacing Guile with Emacs through Geiser is an incredible
>productivity boost.
>
>Interestingly, when I benchmarked the genetic algorithm that I wrote
>with
>genalg package from R, the Scheme version run in Guile actually
>outperformed the R version, although it was written in completely
>performance-naive style.
>
>On the other hand, if you wanted to use the decision trees classifier,
>you'd probably want to apply memoization.
>
>If scheme can do most computational job as python numpy does, I will
>switch
>> to it.
>>
>
>I think that in practice Scheme can be even more convinient, as it
>provides
>native support for complex numbers
>
>I also think it would be helpful to interface Guile with plot
>generation. I
>see that Nala has a guile-plot package, but I haven't tried it. I
>personally wrote some code for generating LaTeX pgfplots for the
>project,
>and can add it to the repo if you llike.

Interesting. Will have a look at how they expose operators.

Myself I have implemented http://github.com/wedesoft/aism for array operations.
-- 
Jan Wedekind
http://www.wedesoft.de/



  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-06 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-06  0:47 [ANN] An impudent introduction to Guile Cao Jin
2016-02-06  6:08 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-02-06  8:52   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2016-02-06  9:16   ` Cao Jin
2016-02-06 10:18   ` Jan Wedekind [this message]
2016-02-07  9:54 ` A0
2016-02-07 21:51   ` Lawrence Bottorff
2016-02-08 19:58     ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-02-08 20:31       ` An impudent introduction to impudence Keith Wright
2016-02-09  6:29         ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-02-09  8:26       ` [ANN] An impudent introduction to Guile tomas
2016-02-09 18:41       ` Lawrence Bottorff
2016-02-10 19:47         ` Panicz Maciej Godek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-02-04 23:09 Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-02-05  0:30 ` Christopher Allan Webber
     [not found]   ` <CAMFYt2YkMi2X0G_7eTtwkc66w1UhXndy+z91ui+PF6d0ie2Rug@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <87zivfxg1w.fsf@dustycloud.org>
2016-02-05 21:46       ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-02-05  6:48 ` Shakthi Kannan
2016-02-05 18:55 ` Amirouche Boubekki
2016-02-05 22:09   ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2016-02-05 19:46 ` Lawrence Bottorff
2016-02-05 20:29   ` Panicz Maciej Godek

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