bindings for fltk or tk?...

bindings for fltk or tk?...

[Robert lewko]

Are there any bindings for graphical tool kits such as FLTK or TK?
The only set of bindings are for GNOME and I am not a fan of GNOME.
Nor to I wish to install all the dependencies that GNOME relies on
(OK, I am an old unix guy and I normally just install enlightenment,
so I don't have GNOME installed - call em weird).

If one were to be inclined to create such a binding to FLTK, what
would be the method that one would take?   From reading section on
"Foreign Function Interface" in the guile docs I think it could be
most easily done as follows:

for the C++ calls I would use the 'extern "c"' declaration to create c
functions for each call in the FLTK API and since C doesn't have
function overloading where the C++ method is overloaded the function
name would have to be modified to allow for multiple C functions that
call the overloaded C++ functions.

For the guile interface each function in the above interface would
have to have a top level guile object like (define fltk-func
(pointer->procedure ....)) to create the guile interface to the C
defined interface.

So, here;s my question.  As outlined above, is this the best way to
provide an API for FLTK?

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Re: bindings for fltk or tk?...

[Mike Gran]

> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:35 PM, Robert lewko <lewkor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Are there any bindings for graphical tool kits such as FLTK or TK?

The last real update to Guile TK in the official Guile CVS repo was 18 years ago.
I'm sure that version is no longer working.
 
-Mike 

Re: bindings for fltk or tk?...

[tomas]

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:51:51PM +0000, Mike Gran wrote:
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> 
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> > On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 3:35 PM, Robert lewko <lewkor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Are there any bindings for graphical tool kits such as FLTK or TK?
> 
> The last real update to Guile TK in the official Guile CVS repo was 18 years ago.
> I'm sure that version is no longer working.

Tcl and Tk changed a lot since then. Among other things, much of Tk relies on
Tcl these days (which makes sense): binding Tk would imply to carry around an
embedded Tcl, I guess. (One would have to peek at how Perl and Python do it).

Alternatively you can set up a widget "server" in TclTk and talk to it (AFAIK
some Lisp does it this way).

Yes, I'd find such a beast interesting too (whichever implementation makes
more sense).

Regards
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Re: bindings for fltk or tk?...

[Arne Babenhauserheide]

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Am Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2015, 16:34:24 schrieb Robert lewko:
> Are there any bindings for graphical tool kits such as FLTK or TK?
> The only set of bindings are for GNOME and I am not a fan of GNOME.
> Nor to I wish to install all the dependencies that GNOME relies on
> (OK, I am an old unix guy and I normally just install enlightenment,
> so I don't have GNOME installed - call em weird).

There are quite a few who try that. I did, too, and only stopped when
I realized that avoiding gnome tools just made my computer harder to
use.

> So, here;s my question.  As outlined above, is this the best way to
> provide an API for FLTK?

I don’t have experience with that, so I can’t really help, but it
would be interesting for me to see it — in the way you rightfully
called weird above :)

Best wishes,
Arne

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Re: bindings for fltk or tk?...

[Amirouche Boubekki]

Le 2015-10-15 22:42, Arne Babenhauserheide a écrit :
> Am Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2015, 16:34:24 schrieb Robert lewko:
>> Are there any bindings for graphical tool kits such as FLTK or TK?
>> The only set of bindings are for GNOME and I am not a fan of GNOME.
>> Nor to I wish to install all the dependencies that GNOME relies on
>> (OK, I am an old unix guy and I normally just install enlightenment,
>> so I don't have GNOME installed - call em weird).

AFAIK, using gnome clutter doesn't require all gnome desktop. The only 
dependencies is glib and cogl. Clutter provides only low level widgets 
aka. actors. There is a library called clutter-mx that provides higher 
level actors but I've read that it's not maintained.

Otherwise if you want to bind FLTK to guile, there is ffi bindings 
included in guile, maybe you will be better served by the method used in 
guile-clutter. There's various examples of guile bindings among which 
guile-wiredtiger [1].



[1] 
https://git.framasoft.org/a-guile-mind/guile-wiredtiger/blob/master/wiredtiger.scm#L68

Re: bindings for fltk or tk?...

[tomas]

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On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:42:40PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2015, 16:34:24 schrieb Robert lewko:
> > Are there any bindings for graphical tool kits such as FLTK or TK?
> > The only set of bindings are for GNOME and I am not a fan of GNOME.
> > Nor to I wish to install all the dependencies that GNOME relies on
> > (OK, I am an old unix guy and I normally just install enlightenment,
> > so I don't have GNOME installed - call em weird).
> 
> There are quite a few who try that. I did, too, and only stopped when
> I realized that avoiding gnome tools just made my computer harder to
> use.

Seriously off-topic: yes those weirdos are out there, believe me (I'm
one of them :-)

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Re: bindings for fltk or tk?...

[Robert lewko]

Actually, if you want the specifics, I use KDE for my desktop on my
laptop and my personal desktop computer.  On my personal server at
home I install something light, like enlightenment.  If I deploy a
server on the internet I try to keep it as lean as possible.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:16 AM,  <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:42:40PM +0200, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2015, 16:34:24 schrieb Robert lewko:
>> > Are there any bindings for graphical tool kits such as FLTK or TK?
>> > The only set of bindings are for GNOME and I am not a fan of GNOME.
>> > Nor to I wish to install all the dependencies that GNOME relies on
>> > (OK, I am an old unix guy and I normally just install enlightenment,
>> > so I don't have GNOME installed - call em weird).
>>
>> There are quite a few who try that. I did, too, and only stopped when
>> I realized that avoiding gnome tools just made my computer harder to
>> use.
>
> Seriously off-topic: yes those weirdos are out there, believe me (I'm
> one of them :-)
>
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