From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chris Vine Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: understanding guile-gi Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 02:16:13 +0000 Message-ID: <20220117021613.a8918d90ff61acef1dec9350@gmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18960"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 17 03:16:18 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n9HZC-0004iB-Dq for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 03:16:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47960 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9HZA-0007XR-Ji for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 21:16:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9HYz-0007XG-Fz for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 21:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a00:1450:4864:20::331] (port=47067 helo=mail-wm1-x331.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n9HYx-0008EW-L4 for guile-user@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 21:16:05 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wm1-x331.google.com with SMTP id d187-20020a1c1dc4000000b003474b4b7ebcso19344153wmd.5 for ; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 18:16:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Epkh5sNLBWdk2mLZfGDfsEfYFw/61wMpnuRnAEG8eWs=; b=dg9oSjekpdTlKgf+JFtx4JLUqTzT/WqYhukhfv5R99gAZ2NRBwEdwFobiLrXTP5ruN hfc8THohwlRTyHP9ptDOEOyENgIFgCWwRFbbpUWJINv7dNCb6RpO4qKAlpxtH7cMLmPI A44qV2S7DnC4GMOUuSXSQoWtki41s0VECqIYnfSsUq2A7TkrAqqTB53WsEtcMA0BceyV N+2CQhy/ZzR3tRu40rLuqmcS7Rx9tO3yand++oYvXQFBnOQaxchrM/T3AAD/hXnaVK52 WZmdzxVMt2wT6txdjDzS9Bp9vbVJxIY7SA/9njKX0IW6nL6+nG1OTJBqDfw6nbjXF6gK ISvw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Epkh5sNLBWdk2mLZfGDfsEfYFw/61wMpnuRnAEG8eWs=; b=3S5L24Mxd9/nZqDfe1KNxeNrYegHqcw8mSO/oyI4vHc4J88BOVBl/rbcD58hlqhhsD /wrlaIsbIgVTsfZsVdA6o5iDekxNd7kxSSsuS6t9ANtXKBR4uPFC7JucjJf0bAOwsPht TxyNAF2xUinmDp5HCNhZ/eENkWX1rZ4b3SUCfCxPbqzo6fypcNwdPnkiSqqOIk8cNUeh d3qH+nO7jWNhcmaljYJKpPSfINg0hzui1HZ6yxi/agXhoCHs7+C4bX9BuAPG2S90lD4D eZYU7CN+rvR9jaIR0/FnxVL2wvShd1xmGkBfSvQPG9KtW3ukM2SrQ75CvhZJgd4QQ7t9 Zh5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533EzlIPRT3j3gRlHumINMWOzhjbjeBOPWX1P0d7G/LAWLT2BvDA SU5rmGZMxmD0bfKHXaTOo7QVCKls29E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzdfiUME1jrTm5Tsl/NZKQDTcJShh0+Je/sX0Ass2KMDcbelBgkNViBkmnGCeaHc3W6UJTumA== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6847:: with SMTP id o7mr17424830wrw.706.1642385762224; Sun, 16 Jan 2022 18:16:02 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bother.homenet ([2.27.184.177]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p62sm11996083wmp.10.2022.01.16.18.16.01 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 16 Jan 2022 18:16:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bother.homenet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bother.homenet (Postfix) with SMTP id 62702260923 for ; Mon, 17 Jan 2022 02:16:13 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a00:1450:4864:20::331 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::331; envelope-from=vine35792468@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x331.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:17961 Archived-At: On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 20:39:47 +0000 Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote: > Thanks for the example link and the explanations! I'll try to learn from the > example. > > Best regards, > Zelphir > > On 1/16/22 5:45 PM, Luis Felipe wrote: > > On Sunday, January 16th, 2022 at 1:37 PM, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote: > > > >> Which things are part of GTK and which things are part of Gnome? Currently my > >> picture is: GTK contains all the GUI things and Gnome the data things. For > >> example: GTK might contain some date picker dialog or popup or whatever, but the > >> datatype for date itself would be part of Gnome. "GDate". As such Gnome provides > >> a sort of common datatypes basis, which could be used by other frameworks as > >> well (and maybe is?). > > Maybe this can serve as an overview of where is everything: > > > > For generic GTK apps (not necessarily targeted at GNOME): https://www.gtk.org/docs/apis/ > > > > For GTK apps that integrate well with GNOME: https://developer.gnome.org/documentation/introduction/components.html > > > > Also, for new projects, if you would like your app to adapt well to different screens, like modern web apps do, maybe take a look at libhandy (https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/libhandy/) and libadwaita (https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/libadwaita/doc/). The latter, if I understand correctly will replace the former. > > > > Also, note that Glade (https://glade.gnome.org/) only supports GTK 3, and there doesn't seem to be any plans to support GTK 4, so people seem to be writing GUIs by hand in GTK 4 projects. Can you please not top post? The posting to which you have replied has not appeared with me. But it (and the comments concerned) have nothing to do with gobject-introspection or guile-gi. "Understanding guile-gi" still appears as the notional title of this thread so if you want to change the subject you might want also to change the title to avoid complete confusion.