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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::432 X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "guile-user" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:14931 Archived-At: On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:38:35 -0300 David Pirotte wrote: > Hi again, > > > ... > > No I didn't. I do remember we talked about this, but I can't find the emails we've > > exchanged about this, nor could I find a snipset to reproduce it (I must have lost > > these emails): with absolutely no promise what so ever, please re-post the short > > example you made at the time so we can reproduce it. > > ... > > I found the thread that leaded to our conversation, and within it, here is the email > containing yor example ...: > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2016-02/msg00104.html > > I do not plan to work on this, but if anyone wants to fix it, well please do and let > us know ... I have looked at it a couple of times and given up. I have found the guile-gnome wrapper impenetrable. There are other things wrong with guile-gnome which makes it (in my view) not especially usable. One which comes to mind is that g-io-add-watch won't compile in user code, nor will much else of the GIOChannel stuff, which is quite a fail if you want to write callbacks for asynchronous i/o events using the glib main loop. There is a work- around for the first of those (g-io-add-watch) but not (as far as I can tell) for the other related issues (you cannot for example get a GIOCondition status). This is a wrapper problem, possibly caused by the introduction of the gio namespace in glib some years ago (which has nothing to do with GIOChannel). Chris