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From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using '-1' in a method named '*'
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 09:00:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170228080030.GA10067@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8760jvsan4.fsf@pobox.com>

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On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 08:21:03PM +0100, Andy Wingo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon 27 Feb 2017 11:06, Alejandro Sanchez <hiphish@openmailbox.org> writes:
> 
> > (define v (make <vector3> #:x 1))
> >
> > (* -1 v)  ; Does not work
> > (* -2 v)  ; Works fine
> 
> I believe that Guile is doing strength reduction, transforming (* -1 v)
> to (- 0 v).

Woah. This is somehow... exquisite.

> It could be that this is totally the wrong thing.  Is (* x 2) -> (+ x x)
> a valid transformation if you don't know the type of x?  I don't know.

What we really want to know is the meaning of '*' and '+' (is that akin
to constant folding?), but yes, for that we need some info about the type
of x, I guess.

> I think there's currently an assumption that if you extend *, that you
> will do so in a mathy way, and that you implement - + and similar.  But
> in this case it's not the clear right thing to do.
> 
> WDYT?  We could remove this transformation, or only apply it when type
> inference has run.

If overloading is allowed then yes, it seems type inference has to go
in first?

regards
- -- tomás
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-28  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-27 10:06 Using '-1' in a method named '*' Alejandro Sanchez
2017-02-27 19:21 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 22:26   ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-02-28  8:00   ` tomas [this message]
2017-02-28  8:54   ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-28  9:19     ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-28 14:24       ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-02-28 17:53         ` Amirouche
2017-02-28 18:32           ` Ralf Mattes
2017-03-01 17:25         ` Andy Wingo
2017-03-01 23:46           ` Alejandro Sanchez
2017-03-02  0:18             ` Thomas Morley
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-03-03  0:07 Sandic, Aleksandar

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