From: <tomas@tuxteam.de>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: guile can't find a chinese named file
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:10:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170215101032.GA32485@tuxteam.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a89n6apt.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
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On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:54:06AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
[...]
> > Not easy.
>
> If you tell Emacs that some external entity is in UTF-8, it will
> represent all valid UTF-8 sequences as properly decoded characters, and
> it has special codes for all bytes not part of valid UTF-8.
>
> As a result, it works with valid UTF-8 perfectly as expected but will
> reproduce arbitrary byte streams thrown at it perfectly when decoding as
> UTF-8 and then reencoding into UTF-8 again.
Yes, Emacs is the text specialist.
It has taken years and a bunch of very smart, experienced and *patient*
folks to achieve that. But then Emacs has users who don't run away
screaming when the GUI widget shows funky stuff. They mostly go
"oh, that's interesting" :-)
(My point: not easy).
A Glib function (as a servant to Gtk) is trying to display a string
"correctly", even if that string is mixed (say Latin1/UTF-8) encoding.
It just can't. Not unless you throw heuristics and voodoo in, and you
don't want a library doing that behind your back.
> Guile is lacking this byte stream reproducibility when
> decoding/reencoding. That makes it a whole lot less robust for dealing
> with externally provided material.
Definitely. Perhaps the Emacs approach might be the right one for Guile?
regards
- -- t
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2016-11-27 11:58 guile can't find a chinese named file Thomas Morley
2016-11-27 12:16 ` Chaos Eternal
2016-11-28 8:54 ` Thomas Morley
2017-01-26 21:59 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-01-30 14:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-30 15:48 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 16:41 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-01-30 17:04 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 15:54 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-30 16:19 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 16:33 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-30 16:42 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 17:58 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-30 18:32 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-30 19:00 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-30 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-30 20:42 ` Mike Gran
2017-01-31 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-31 6:16 ` Mike Gran
2017-01-31 8:51 ` David Kastrup
2017-01-30 19:01 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-30 19:27 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-14 20:10 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-14 20:54 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-14 21:07 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 21:52 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-14 22:12 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-14 22:19 ` Chris Vine
2017-02-15 7:15 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-15 9:18 ` tomas
2017-02-15 9:54 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-15 10:10 ` tomas [this message]
2017-02-15 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 20:07 ` tomas
2017-02-15 20:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 10:50 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-15 11:18 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-15 10:15 ` Chris Vine
2017-02-15 11:48 ` tomas
2017-02-15 12:13 ` Chris Vine
2017-02-15 12:41 ` tomas
2017-02-15 13:11 ` Chris Vine
2017-02-15 13:31 ` tomas
2017-02-15 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-26 20:58 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-26 20:52 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-15 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 17:53 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-15 20:20 ` tomas
2017-02-15 20:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 21:04 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 5:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 6:15 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 6:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 7:16 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 8:26 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 10:21 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 10:43 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 11:04 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 11:11 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 11:32 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 11:49 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 12:14 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 16:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 16:38 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 18:38 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 19:35 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 20:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 20:52 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 21:13 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-17 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-17 8:46 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-17 9:04 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-17 9:57 ` tomas
2017-02-17 9:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-17 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 16:35 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-16 18:30 ` Mike Gran
2017-02-16 18:48 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-16 7:02 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-16 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-15 21:15 ` tomas
2017-02-16 5:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 23:58 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-15 10:12 ` tomas
2017-02-15 12:04 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-02-26 21:20 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 9:10 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-27 11:02 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 12:09 ` David Kastrup
2017-02-27 12:33 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-27 19:29 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-27 20:24 ` Jan Wedekind
2017-02-27 20:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 22:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-26 21:23 ` Andy Wingo
2017-01-30 19:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-30 20:46 ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-01-31 12:20 ` tomas
2017-02-14 19:58 ` Linas Vepstas
2017-02-26 21:33 ` Andy Wingo
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