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From: Josef Wolf <jw@raven.inka.de>
To: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Need help to understand a macro
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:50:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100322195025.GC31143@raven.wolf.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3sk7wxu5k.fsf@pobox.com>

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 03:28:39PM +0100, Andy Wingo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri 19 Mar 2010 09:57, Josef Wolf <jw@raven.inka.de> writes:
> 
> >  (show-expansion (defstruct tree height girth age leaf-shape leaf-color))
> 
> (macroexpand '(defstruct ...))
> 
> You might want to surround that with (pretty-print ...) from (ice-9
> pretty-print).
> 
> > Of course this is possible. After all, code is data and data is code.
> 
> Sorta. Syntax-rules/syntax-case macros operate on syntax objects, not on
> raw s-expressions. This allows them to preserve referential
> transparency. So the result of expansion might not look like what you
> would expect.

Ummm, I just started to hammer this macro thing into my head, so I don't
understand (yet) what you are talking about. I thought the power of lisp
macros comes from the fact that they operate on s-expressions? What are
syntax objects? What is referential transparency?

> Read up on syntax-rules and syntax-case macros, when you get some time.
> I used to love defmacros but I don't use them any more.
> 
> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=guile.git;a=blob;f=doc/ref/api-macros.texi;h=51f54ed070af453a138282f61e7cd8dbbddc53a3;hb=HEAD

Where can I find a version translated in pdf or html or something?

Thanks Andy!




  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-22 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-19  8:57 Need help to understand a macro Josef Wolf
2010-03-19 12:54 ` Ken Raeburn
2010-03-22 19:25   ` Josef Wolf
2010-03-22 20:16     ` Andy Wingo
2010-03-22 20:54       ` Josef Wolf
2010-03-19 14:28 ` Andy Wingo
2010-03-19 16:15   ` Andreas Rottmann
2010-03-22 19:55     ` Josef Wolf
2010-03-22 21:50       ` Andreas Rottmann
2010-03-22 19:50   ` Josef Wolf [this message]
2010-03-22 20:36     ` Andy Wingo
2010-03-22 21:01       ` Josef Wolf
2010-03-23  0:50         ` Neil Jerram
2010-03-20 14:13 ` szgyg
2010-03-22 21:06   ` Josef Wolf

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