From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Keith Wright Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: request to shutdown projects Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:22:50 -0400 Message-ID: <200804161822.m3GIMouT003082@fcs13.keithdiane.us> References: <200804152221.m3FMLksO003043@fcs13.keithdiane.us> <87bq4a8e7a.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208371718 12107 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2008 18:48:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:48:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org To: ludo@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 16 20:49:11 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JmCO6-0007QB-4r for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:29:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JmCNR-0005dd-Cn for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:29:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JmCNJ-0005bh-K1 for guile-user@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:28:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JmCNH-0005ax-Rf for guile-user@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JmCNH-0005at-HZ for guile-user@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:28:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.9]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JmCNG-0005L6-Lx for guile-user@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:28:51 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 20683 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2008 18:28:48 -0000 Original-Received: from dsl.keithdiane.us (HELO fcs12.keithdiane.us) ([66.92.74.188]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 16 Apr 2008 18:28:48 -0000 Original-Received: from fcs13.keithdiane.us (fcs13 [192.168.1.112]) by fcs12.keithdiane.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id A670A237D83; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from fcs13.keithdiane.us (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by fcs13.keithdiane.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id B458DAC8001; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from kwright@localhost) by fcs13.keithdiane.us (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m3GIMouT003082; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:22:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: fcs13.keithdiane.us: kwright set sender to kwright@keithdiane.us using -f In-reply-to: <87bq4a8e7a.fsf@gnu.org> (ludo@gnu.org) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:6537 Archived-At: > From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?iso-8859-1?Q?Court=E8s?=) > > Hi, Thank you for explaining this. I have been subscribed to the guile-user list for more than a decade, but have not recently been keeping up with developments otherwise. I was confused by this message, which appeared on guile-user in response (it now seems) to discussions in some other forum. As I tried to figure it out I found more things I did not understand and began to have fun with paranoia. > Keith Wright writes: > > >> From: "Marco Maggi" > >> > >> > >> > >> It is telling that nobody stepped out saying "I have a copy of the > >> source, let's find a place to host it", mh? > > > > I don't know about telling, but I am asking > > why the Subject: header says "Re: "? > Ludovic again: > > This thread: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.bugs/3847 > > > What's in the tar file? > > GEE, a collection of Guile bindings to various useful libraries that > Marco has abandoned *and* removed from the web (well, until this > message). I had never even heard of GEE, and at first read this as "GEE WHIZ don't you know that it's a... In fact, in case anyone else is as confused as I am, know that GEE is the name of the library, and gna.org is a French GNU-like website and source code repository. > > What have you done to Marco? > > See https://gna.org/support/?1913 . > > (Which is not a reason to be angry at Guile users IMO...) It seems that Marco now prefers a different version of Scheme. I don't see how anyone could be angry with Guile users (as a group and for this reason). At worst they are dupes. This whole snafu does raise some questions about portability of Scheme programs between implementations, which I will ask in a separate message if I can figure out just what they are. -- Keith