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From: Tom Lord <lord@emf.net>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org, guile-devel@gnu.org, mvo@zagadka.de
Subject: Re: Worrying development
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:16:25 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200401231716.JAA26107@morrowfield.regexps.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40110961.1040808@dirk-herrmanns-seiten.de> (message from Dirk Herrmann on Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:45:37 +0100)


    > From: Dirk Herrmann <dirk@dirk-herrmanns-seiten.de>

    > First: It's not a matter of whether users *need* to make certain 
    > assumptions: It's a matter of interface definition. Scheme defines the 
    > string data type and together with it, it defines the semantics of 
    > operations on it. 

Please show me what existing lines of the Scheme standard will have to
change if mutation-sharing shared substrings are added.

The standard (not very formally but clearly enough) says that the
standard procedures which construct strings allocate fresh locations
for the contents of those strings.

That means that none of those procedures create mutation-sharing
shared substrings -- nobody has proposed anything different.

I think you are imagining that there is an additional requirement in
the standard: that any procedure at all which creates a new string
must allocate fresh locations for its contents.  But that additional
requirement isn't there.  Scheme programmers can not assume that that
requirement is part of Scheme.

Mutation-sharing shared substrings are an upwards compatible extension
to the Scheme standard.  They break no correct programs.  They enable
new kinds of programs.


-t



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  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-23 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-16  9:41 Worrying development Roland Orre
2004-01-16 11:19 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-01-16 11:34   ` Roland Orre
2004-01-24 22:44     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-01-16 11:59 ` tomas
2004-01-18 21:05 ` Marius Vollmer
2004-01-18 21:58   ` Tom Lord
2004-01-22 16:11   ` Dirk Herrmann
2004-01-22 18:26     ` Shared Substrings [was: Worrying development] Robert Uhl
2004-01-22 18:42     ` Worrying development Tom Lord
2004-01-23 11:45       ` Dirk Herrmann
2004-01-23 17:16         ` Tom Lord [this message]
2004-01-23 21:01           ` Marius Vollmer
2004-01-23 22:18             ` Tom Lord
2004-01-24  0:27               ` Marius Vollmer
2004-01-24  0:53                 ` Tom Lord
2004-01-23 22:28             ` Paul Jarc
2004-01-24 12:09               ` rm
2004-01-24 13:29                 ` Marius Vollmer
2004-01-26  2:42                   ` overriding car/cdr (was: Worrying development) Paul Jarc
2004-02-08 16:21                     ` overriding car/cdr Dirk Herrmann
2004-02-08 18:09                     ` Marius Vollmer
2004-02-08 20:56                       ` Paul Jarc
2004-03-20 22:28                         ` Marius Vollmer
2004-03-22 17:05                           ` David Van Horn
2004-03-22 21:03                             ` Marius Vollmer
2004-03-22 17:24                           ` Paul Jarc
2004-01-23 22:37           ` Worrying development Dirk Herrmann
2004-01-23 23:25             ` Tom Lord

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