From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Todd Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: First look at Guile Std Library available Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:32:15 -0600 Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040105203215.GA582@Richard-Todds-Computer.local> References: <20040102052128.GA16849@Richard-Todds-Computer.local> <87wu89q8pj.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <20040103221857.GA518@Richard-Todds-Computer.local> <20040104035022.GA742@Richard-Todds-Computer.local> <3FF88AD5.6010701@vzavenue.net> Reply-To: Richard Todd NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1185818887==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1073335498 15576 80.91.224.253 (5 Jan 2004 20:44:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 20:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 05 21:44:55 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Adbap-0003Qk-00 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 21:44:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AdcRU-0007Fm-KH for guile-user@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:39:20 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AdcQH-00073l-U8 for guile-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:38:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AdcPj-0006qz-Gj for guile-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:38:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [66.171.156.251] (helo=Richard-Todds-Computer.local) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AdcM5-00068R-OW for guile-user@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 16:33:45 -0500 Original-Received: by Richard-Todds-Computer.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id B85EC7B81C; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 14:32:15 -0600 (CST) Original-To: ttn@glug.org In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:2533 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.user:2533 --===============1185818887== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jRHKVT23PllUwdXP" Content-Disposition: inline --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 03:00:28PM +0100, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > From: Richard Todd > Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 15:51:17 -0600 >=20 > I don't follow why one-size-fits-all would reduce the immediate > usefulness of the libarary for some users. Are you are talking about > a user who was already using an interface from another library that I > incorporated and changed? Compared to the benefit to new users who > would not be faced with several disjoint interfaces, I think this is > insignificant (especially since they can keep on using the old lib if > they want). >=20 > i presumed you wanted to build something useful to more than just new > users. it seems to me you want to "ask the community" to tell you what > to do, but are not clear what comprises "the community", so now i'll ask > explicitly: what is your target audience? what assumptions are you > making about this audience? these answers will let me know if i am > included, so that i can continue discussion or withdraw as appropriate. In my view, the current level of guile usage is close to nil. I want to make steps to put guile in a place where it can reach a wider audience. So, the target audience does not yet exist, and this project will succeed only to the extent that the current users want that audience to materialize. > personally, i don't care about code as much as interfaces (and their > proper care and feeding). bad code under a good interface can be fixed. > bad interfaces can also be fixed, but at a higher cost. Then perhaps you could critique the *interface* to the code I've put out?? I agree that work on the interface would be more valuable than if you found an off-by-1 error. I'm not asking for that. Richard Todd --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQE/+cnPa9lhNGIqsRIRAqvPAJ0SBLowdEIZofpAz6kbRRt/ppe6AACgpfdW ZMcE4x713NpMDm2PvSoQowo= =/7zf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jRHKVT23PllUwdXP-- --===============1185818887== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Guile-user mailing list Guile-user@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-user --===============1185818887==--