[Announce] dmd -0.5

[Announce] dmd -0.5

[Wolfgang Jaehrling]

Announcement: dmd -0.5
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

About this release:
This version (code named "sunflower-seeds-talking-with-pizza-crums")
is a cleanup-release.  Not only the maintainability of the code has
been optimized, the consistency of the user-visible parts has also
been improved (since they have been completely reviewed).  Now we are
well prepaired for some more significant changes.  Note that dmd is
still in a rather early alpha stage of development.

About the software:
The dmd program is a "Daemon managing Daemons" (or "Daemons-managing
Daemon"?), i.e. a service manager, that is entirely written in Guile,
the extension language of the GNU project.  It provides a replacement
for the service-managing capabillities of SysV-init (or any other
init) with a both powerfull and beautiful dependency-based system with
a convenient interface.  It is intended for use on GNU/Hurd, but it is
supposed to work on every POSIX-like system where Guile is available.
In particular, it has been tested on GNU/Linux.

Get it from <http://www.8ung.at/shell/dmd--0.5.tar.gz>.

Cheers,
GNU/Wolfgang

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disapprovingly." -- Paul Graham

Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5

[Robert Millan]

hi Wolfgang!

On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:12:53PM +0200, Wolfgang Jaehrling wrote:
> Announcement: dmd -0.5
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> 
> About the software:
> The dmd program is a "Daemon managing Daemons" (or "Daemons-managing
> Daemon"?), i.e. a service manager, that is entirely written in Guile,
> the extension language of the GNU project.  It provides a replacement
> for the service-managing capabillities of SysV-init

this sounds interesting and i have some curiosity. are you planning...

 - to make it gnu software?
 - to get it packaged for debian?

i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
might fit well?

[1] http://people.debian.org/~rmh/gnu-freebsd/

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Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5

[Wolfgang Jaehrling]

On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:56:14PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> are you planning...
>  - to make it gnu software?

As soon as I am confident that dmd will end up being a very good piece
of software, I want to make it GNU software.

>  - to get it packaged for debian?

Sure, but I want it to be really well integrated, and doing that will
take me some time.

> i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
> might fit well?

No, since dmd is no `init'.  Without a seperate init you won't get
very far. :-)

Cheers,
GNU/Wolfgang

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Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5

[Robert Millan]

On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 06:05:14PM +0200, Wolfgang Jaehrling wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:56:14PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > are you planning...
> >  - to make it gnu software?
> 
> As soon as I am confident that dmd will end up being a very good piece
> of software, I want to make it GNU software.

I see.. wish it becomes so!

> >  - to get it packaged for debian?
> 
> Sure, but I want it to be really well integrated, and doing that will
> take me some time.

uhm yes, i noticed it somewhat interfers with the current sysvinit package

> > i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
> > might fit well?
> 
> No, since dmd is no `init'.  Without a seperate init you won't get
> very far. :-)

oh. then we still need to port debian's sysvinit. btw help from anyone
reading this is quite welcome :)

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Robert Millan

Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5

[Alfred M. Szmidt]

   Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 00:20:25 +0200
   From: Robert Millan <zeratul2@wanadoo.es>
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   On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 06:05:14PM +0200, Wolfgang Jaehrling wrote:
   > On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:56:14PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
   > > are you planning...
   > >  - to make it gnu software?
   > 
   > As soon as I am confident that dmd will end up being a very good piece
   > of software, I want to make it GNU software.

   I see.. wish it becomes so!

   > >  - to get it packaged for debian?
   > 
   > Sure, but I want it to be really well integrated, and doing that will
   > take me some time.

   uhm yes, i noticed it somewhat interfers with the current sysvinit package

   > > i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
   > > might fit well?
   > 
   > No, since dmd is no `init'.  Without a seperate init you won't get
   > very far. :-)

   oh. then we still need to port debian's sysvinit. btw help from anyone
   reading this is quite welcome :)

No, you have missunderstood what dmd is.  It is not /sbin/init, it is
an repleacement for it (think of it as GNU's not Unix, yet they are
quite similar in several regards).  From the annoucment mail for
dmd--0.7:

(define about-the-software
  "The dmd program is a service manager, i.e. on the GNU system (which
is the primary target), it replaces /sbin/init completely, on systems
which are similar to Unix (e.g. GNU/Linux) it replaces the part of
/sbin/init that is responsible for switching runlevels (/etc/rc?.d and
/etc/init.d come to mind), respawning services (/etc/inittab comes to
mind) and similar things.")

Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5

[Robert Millan]

On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 12:11:09PM +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> 
> No, you have missunderstood what dmd is.  It is not /sbin/init, it is
> an repleacement for it (think of it as GNU's not Unix, yet they are
> quite similar in several regards).  From the annoucment mail for
> dmd--0.7:
> 
> (define about-the-software
>   "The dmd program is a service manager, i.e. on the GNU system (which
> is the primary target), it replaces /sbin/init completely, on systems
> which are similar to Unix (e.g. GNU/Linux) it replaces the part of
> /sbin/init that is responsible for switching runlevels (/etc/rc?.d and
> /etc/init.d come to mind), respawning services (/etc/inittab comes to
> mind) and similar things.")

oh, i understand now.

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