* [Announce] dmd -0.5
@ 2003-06-08 12:12 Wolfgang Jaehrling
2003-06-08 12:56 ` Robert Millan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Jaehrling @ 2003-06-08 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: help-hurd
Announcement: dmd -0.5
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
About this release:
This version (code named "sunflower-seeds-talking-with-pizza-crums")
is a cleanup-release. Not only the maintainability of the code has
been optimized, the consistency of the user-visible parts has also
been improved (since they have been completely reviewed). Now we are
well prepaired for some more significant changes. Note that dmd is
still in a rather early alpha stage of development.
About the software:
The dmd program is a "Daemon managing Daemons" (or "Daemons-managing
Daemon"?), i.e. a service manager, that is entirely written in Guile,
the extension language of the GNU project. It provides a replacement
for the service-managing capabillities of SysV-init (or any other
init) with a both powerfull and beautiful dependency-based system with
a convenient interface. It is intended for use on GNU/Hurd, but it is
supposed to work on every POSIX-like system where Guile is available.
In particular, it has been tested on GNU/Linux.
Get it from <http://www.8ung.at/shell/dmd--0.5.tar.gz>.
Cheers,
GNU/Wolfgang
--
"A good programming language should have features that make the kind
of people who use the phrase `software engineering' shake their heads
disapprovingly." -- Paul Graham
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* Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5
2003-06-08 12:12 [Announce] dmd -0.5 Wolfgang Jaehrling
@ 2003-06-08 12:56 ` Robert Millan
2003-06-08 16:05 ` Wolfgang Jaehrling
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From: Robert Millan @ 2003-06-08 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: guile-user
hi Wolfgang!
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:12:53PM +0200, Wolfgang Jaehrling wrote:
> Announcement: dmd -0.5
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> About the software:
> The dmd program is a "Daemon managing Daemons" (or "Daemons-managing
> Daemon"?), i.e. a service manager, that is entirely written in Guile,
> the extension language of the GNU project. It provides a replacement
> for the service-managing capabillities of SysV-init
this sounds interesting and i have some curiosity. are you planning...
- to make it gnu software?
- to get it packaged for debian?
i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
might fit well?
[1] http://people.debian.org/~rmh/gnu-freebsd/
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* Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5
2003-06-08 12:56 ` Robert Millan
@ 2003-06-08 16:05 ` Wolfgang Jaehrling
2003-06-08 22:20 ` Robert Millan
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From: Wolfgang Jaehrling @ 2003-06-08 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: guile-user
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:56:14PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> are you planning...
> - to make it gnu software?
As soon as I am confident that dmd will end up being a very good piece
of software, I want to make it GNU software.
> - to get it packaged for debian?
Sure, but I want it to be really well integrated, and doing that will
take me some time.
> i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
> might fit well?
No, since dmd is no `init'. Without a seperate init you won't get
very far. :-)
Cheers,
GNU/Wolfgang
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of people who use the phrase `software engineering' shake their heads
disapprovingly." -- Paul Graham
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* Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5
2003-06-08 16:05 ` Wolfgang Jaehrling
@ 2003-06-08 22:20 ` Robert Millan
2003-06-10 10:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
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From: Robert Millan @ 2003-06-08 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: guile-user
On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 06:05:14PM +0200, Wolfgang Jaehrling wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:56:14PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > are you planning...
> > - to make it gnu software?
>
> As soon as I am confident that dmd will end up being a very good piece
> of software, I want to make it GNU software.
I see.. wish it becomes so!
> > - to get it packaged for debian?
>
> Sure, but I want it to be really well integrated, and doing that will
> take me some time.
uhm yes, i noticed it somewhat interfers with the current sysvinit package
> > i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
> > might fit well?
>
> No, since dmd is no `init'. Without a seperate init you won't get
> very far. :-)
oh. then we still need to port debian's sysvinit. btw help from anyone
reading this is quite welcome :)
--
Robert Millan
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* Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5
2003-06-08 22:20 ` Robert Millan
@ 2003-06-10 10:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2003-06-10 13:41 ` Robert Millan
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From: Alfred M. Szmidt @ 2003-06-10 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: help-hurd
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 00:20:25 +0200
From: Robert Millan <zeratul2@wanadoo.es>
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 06:05:14PM +0200, Wolfgang Jaehrling wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2003 at 02:56:14PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> > are you planning...
> > - to make it gnu software?
>
> As soon as I am confident that dmd will end up being a very good piece
> of software, I want to make it GNU software.
I see.. wish it becomes so!
> > - to get it packaged for debian?
>
> Sure, but I want it to be really well integrated, and doing that will
> take me some time.
uhm yes, i noticed it somewhat interfers with the current sysvinit package
> > i'm looking for a working init for GNU/FreeBSD [1]. do you think dmd
> > might fit well?
>
> No, since dmd is no `init'. Without a seperate init you won't get
> very far. :-)
oh. then we still need to port debian's sysvinit. btw help from anyone
reading this is quite welcome :)
No, you have missunderstood what dmd is. It is not /sbin/init, it is
an repleacement for it (think of it as GNU's not Unix, yet they are
quite similar in several regards). From the annoucment mail for
dmd--0.7:
(define about-the-software
"The dmd program is a service manager, i.e. on the GNU system (which
is the primary target), it replaces /sbin/init completely, on systems
which are similar to Unix (e.g. GNU/Linux) it replaces the part of
/sbin/init that is responsible for switching runlevels (/etc/rc?.d and
/etc/init.d come to mind), respawning services (/etc/inittab comes to
mind) and similar things.")
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* Re: [Announce] dmd -0.5
2003-06-10 10:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
@ 2003-06-10 13:41 ` Robert Millan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Robert Millan @ 2003-06-10 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: help-hurd
On Tue, Jun 10, 2003 at 12:11:09PM +0200, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
>
> No, you have missunderstood what dmd is. It is not /sbin/init, it is
> an repleacement for it (think of it as GNU's not Unix, yet they are
> quite similar in several regards). From the annoucment mail for
> dmd--0.7:
>
> (define about-the-software
> "The dmd program is a service manager, i.e. on the GNU system (which
> is the primary target), it replaces /sbin/init completely, on systems
> which are similar to Unix (e.g. GNU/Linux) it replaces the part of
> /sbin/init that is responsible for switching runlevels (/etc/rc?.d and
> /etc/init.d come to mind), respawning services (/etc/inittab comes to
> mind) and similar things.")
oh, i understand now.
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