From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: MSavoritias Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: status of guile-gnome and replacements? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 16:47:53 +0200 Message-ID: <1989a0ad-9d6a-110f-ddab-0c15d2e6a875@fannys.me> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28920"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.0 To: Greg Troxel , guile-user@gnu.org Original-X-From: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 07 15:49:11 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r0NO8-0007Iy-Gq for guile-user@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2023 15:49:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r0NNa-0001jg-G0; Tue, 07 Nov 2023 09:48:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r0NNK-0001hL-OJ for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2023 09:48:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.webarch.email ([81.95.52.48]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r0NNG-0005KR-7B for guile-user@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2023 09:48:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Mailerdaemon) with ESMTPSA id D473A1A8CBB0; Tue, 7 Nov 2023 14:47:59 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=msavoritias.me; s=20210930; t=1699368481; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-language:in-reply-to:references; bh=8P0lG/umESbv6PuxAjGD1RMDIOb3HwV8ktlMAlPYzv0=; b=znV10RVqLQ4Fd+c87Xpp4CUBU0Eudb7QfYdRETs65bQCNgPhbx4REgzYPGyUSpjQ8ZseU+ ahJND21lMf7K8JMCMaFk/djiA1z39y5ink1Q82RFA8jlWS5x4aOFRbNpe58n2RS6zrDCB/ wWCBqbowo9uxR11eYQs7mOgHMbt9+v/swcrbJSugJDgG6L8QHej+xFr0qZcMydNNLYN5U4 QZHqj4Inn8g/BTlhMthuIIgCkEP6almKooCFg9ytMOv0q11rpYn5I4lrdg+M1C/JapuuRV us66tdE0US4hMgnC12CL7Rs+KbNiuq6pKsVOzbXXgSk5U6u1Fou3CfCSss0dlQ== Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Last-TLS-Session-Version: TLSv1.3 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.95.52.48; envelope-from=email@msavoritias.me; helo=mail.webarch.email X-Spam_score_int: -40 X-Spam_score: -4.1 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-2.344, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: guile-user-bounces+guile-user=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.lisp.guile.user:19301 Archived-At: On 11/7/23 16:37, Greg Troxel wrote: > In pkgsrc we are pruning gnome2 (but have mate). That's not about > guile, but it is causing a hard look at things that depend on gnome2. > > We have guile-gnome 2.16.5, the most recent release, released in June of > 2017. I remember using something in 2004ish, but more for gtk than > gnome. > > Our package depends on guile 2.0. I just tried to run calc.scm which I > remember from the old days, but it failed, perhaps due to how we > namespace multiple guile versions. > > I tried to find what guile-gnome has been replaced by, and remembered > g-wrap, but last release was 2015 and it's a FFI. > > I then found guile-gtk, from 2007 which says to use guile-gnome. > > I found guile-cairo, from 2020 which counts as recent, but "Guile-Cairo > is complete, wrapping almost all of the Cairo API." which does not seem > to be "you can use this to do random gtk3 things". > > So: what is the current best way to do gtk3 (4?) from guile? > > At this point I have no need, but I like to see guile things live on, > when it makes sense. But it is seeming like tilting at windmills to > keep guile-gnome going. > > What do other packaging systems do? Debian 12 doesn't have guile-gnome > but it does have guile-cairo. > > Greg > As far as i know the most maintained and best way to use gtk/gnome things from guile is guile-gi https://github.com/spk121/guile-gi Regards, MSavoritias