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From: "John W. Eaton" <jwe@bevo.che.wisc.edu>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org, Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
Subject: Re: deprecated symbol warnings
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 23:17:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <17030.48944.683011.894315@devzero.bogus.domain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <28ae757805033aac63a3f7bf8f4b1ccd@raeburn.org>

On 14-May-2005, Ken Raeburn wrote:

| >> /* N.B.: Application code will sometimes test whether one of these
| >>     macros is defined, to figure out if the version of Guile in use
| >>     predates the creation of the macro.  So at deprecation time, we
| >>     still want the macro to be visible.  ANSI C says "#define foo foo"
| >>     is okay, but if we get complaints about it, try switching the
| >>     non-macro name to "foo_" or "foo_deprecated" or something; make it
| >>     a simple concatenation so that we can make the other macros
| >>     continue to be simple.  */
| >
| > I think we should assume in advance that we'll hit trouble with this 
| > on some platforms.  Otherwise it's just another hiccup to push people 
| > away from trying Guile out.
| 
| *sigh*  I was afraid of that.  So when do we start requiring "real" 
| ANSI C support? :-(

Can you point to a widely used compiler that will actually have
trouble with this?  If not, then maybe it is not worth worrying about?

| Doing this means the compile-time messages will give the wrong symbol 
| names.  They'll be close to the names used by the application, but not 
| the same.  Still, getting messages that are close is probably better 
| than explaining to people why this strange use of the preprocessor is 
| actually valid and it's their compiler that's broken.  I wonder if it's 
| really a problem these days, though, a decade and a half after the spec 
| was published....

Having the messages use the wrong names might cause a lot more
confusion than having to explain to people that their compiler is
broken.

jwe

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-15  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1CmxC0-0003DB-Gx@sc8-sf-web1.sourceforge.net>
2005-01-07 17:31 ` SCM_LENGTH ??? Bruce Korb
2005-01-07 18:07   ` Marius Vollmer
2005-01-07 18:27     ` Bruce Korb
2005-01-10 17:26       ` Marius Vollmer
2005-01-10 18:03         ` Bruce Korb
2005-01-10 20:59           ` Greg Troxel
2005-01-11 18:08           ` Marius Vollmer
2005-01-11 23:40             ` Kevin Ryde
2005-01-12 10:33               ` Marius Vollmer
2005-01-10 20:34         ` Ken Raeburn
2005-01-11 16:12           ` Bruce Korb
2005-01-11 18:32           ` Marius Vollmer
2005-05-14  2:52           ` deprecated symbol warnings Ken Raeburn
2005-05-14 12:40             ` Neil Jerram
2005-05-14 18:48               ` Ken Raeburn
2005-05-15  3:17                 ` John W. Eaton [this message]
2005-05-15 10:19                   ` Neil Jerram
2005-05-16  5:52                   ` Ken Raeburn
2005-05-18  4:22                     ` tomas
2005-05-18 12:20                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2005-05-18 17:17                       ` automated testing (was Re: deprecated symbol warnings) Ken Raeburn
2005-05-26 18:58                 ` deprecated symbol warnings Neil Jerram
2005-05-28 21:55                   ` Ken Raeburn
2005-05-18 19:18               ` deprecated symbol warnings and Windows Ken Raeburn

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