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From: HiPhish <hiphish@posteo.de>
To: Panicz Maciej Godek <godek.maciek@gmail.com>
Cc: guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A value for "nothing"
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2018 10:29:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15054929.sbgKR7obcS@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMFYt2YZ=772i859gxoMF4p_2ssUDEsjSfs7gwUSFf0i=y_mgA@mail.gmail.com>

On Montag, 27. August 2018 02:17:06 CEST you wrote:
> In my experience, if #f doesn't make sense as a legal value, then using #f
> is probably the idiomatic Scheme way to go.
> It composes with SRFI-2's and-let* in a way similar to Haskell's Nothing
> within the "do" notation.
> I did find it useful when I was implementing a pattern matching facility,
> where I could distinguish between an empty list of (successful) bindings
> and a failed match.
> But I think you would need to tell us more about the library: where do the
> values come from and what do they represent. What would this "nil" data
> type be supposed to stand for?

I literally don't know where the values will come from, that's the thing. 
MessagePack is a data serialization format: a process has some in-memory 
object, turns it into bytes and later reads those bytes to generate an in-
memory object. The bytes could come from an entirely different process in a 
language which distinguishes between "nothing", "falsely" and "empty list". If 
you use MessagePack for a remote procedure call and on the other end you 
*must* be able to distinguish between those things, then you also *must* be 
able to distinguish them on Guile's end as well.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-08-27  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-26 10:13 A value for "nothing" HiPhish
2018-08-26 17:21 ` Thomas Morley
2018-08-26 17:27 ` Joshua Branson
2018-08-26 17:49 ` John Cowan
2018-08-27  4:52   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 13:00     ` John Cowan
2018-08-27 21:29       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 21:32       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-26 20:07 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-26 22:08   ` Matt Wette
2018-08-27  8:04   ` tomas
2018-08-27 20:12     ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 20:46       ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28  0:50         ` Matt Wette
2018-08-28  6:58           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 15:19             ` John Cowan
2018-08-28 15:38               ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 15:59                 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 16:12                 ` John Cowan
2018-08-28 17:15                   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 19:07                   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-27 20:54       ` Hans Åberg
2018-08-27  0:17 ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2018-08-27  8:02   ` tomas
2018-08-27  8:29     ` Panicz Maciej Godek
2018-08-27  8:29   ` HiPhish [this message]
     [not found] ` <8840615.kRvQfVdCvZ@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740>
     [not found]   ` <CAD2gp_QLqd=_RbF=HTEbCLp1onmUq-c74g0FXTvMgdz8JB4-8A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-08-27  8:24     ` HiPhish
     [not found] ` <3467110.H24gZIzStD@aleksandar-ixtreme-m5740>
     [not found]   ` <87ftz0vidc.fsf@netris.org>
2018-08-27  8:40     ` HiPhish
2018-08-27 12:37       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-27 19:49         ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28  7:52           ` Ludovic Courtès
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-08-26 20:25 HiPhish
2018-09-13 21:49 HiPhish
     [not found] ` <CAD2gp_Sg-aDXZKfOcL-i2py7ne4c0Cp+2HvKS4DYi1Antm_B1A@mail.gmail.com>
2018-09-14 22:45   ` HiPhish
2018-09-15  0:26     ` John Cowan
2018-09-15 14:50       ` HiPhish
2018-09-15 18:28         ` Keith Wright
2018-09-15 21:50           ` Edwin Watkeys
2018-09-15 22:16             ` HiPhish
2018-09-15 22:23               ` Edwin Watkeys
2018-09-15 22:13           ` HiPhish
2018-09-15 22:45       ` David Pirotte

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