From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Gribble Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.user Subject: Re: Forking stables. was Re: language translator help Date: 17 Jun 2002 18:35:26 -0500 Sender: guile-user-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <1024356926.17383.55.camel@firetrap> References: <200206141608.12568.unknown_lamer@unknownlamer.org> <200206141703.26705.unknown_lamer@unknownlamer.org> <87hek5357e.fsf@lackawana.kippona.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1024357022 14614 127.0.0.1 (17 Jun 2002 23:37:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 23:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chris Beggy , guile-user@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17K63S-0003nR-00 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 2002 01:37:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17K62Y-00018W-00; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:36:06 -0400 Original-Received: from grib.customer.jump.net ([216.30.103.2] helo=firewall.linuxdevelopersgroup.com) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17K61w-00015K-00 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (unknown [192.168.0.5]) by firewall.linuxdevelopersgroup.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42646FEE; Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:35:26 -0500 (CDT) Original-To: Neil Jerram In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 Errors-To: guile-user-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: guile-user@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: General Guile related discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.user:604 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.guile.user:604 On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 17:37, Neil Jerram wrote: > Er... not a lot. It's a great article, but I noticed nothing in > particular on these subjects. Rather, it's all about designing a > language so that the community can help grow it, and in particular > about why he thinks that Java needs overloaded operators. Java *does* need overloaded operators... if it's got even half a chance of overtaking c++ as the most bletcherous abortion of a half-specified "oops, um, well actually what we REALLY meant was" of a language ever. ba dump b.g. who just today got a very hearty belly laugh out of this: there's no way to determine at compile time or run time if a particular g++-compiled library was compiled with either RTTI or exception support, so you can't actually distribute *any* program that depends on 3rd party c++ libraries and expect it to work unless it's statically linked and includes the complete source to all 3rd party libs in its own source tree, so it can make sure they get built with the same RTTI/exception conventions... but of course templates' "generic programming" model makes shared libraries, um, "obsolete" anyway... > > (Oh, perhaps that was your point ...?) > > Neil > > > _______________________________________________ > Guile-user mailing list > Guile-user@gnu.org > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-user _______________________________________________ Guile-user mailing list Guile-user@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/guile-user