From: Mikael Djurfeldt <mdj@kvast.blakulla.net>
Cc: djurfeldt@nada.kth.se,
Dirk Herrmann <dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>,
guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: goops and memoization
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 20:08:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xy7lm3m2yz2.fsf@linnaeus.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m33cpu8oub.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net> (Neil Jerram's message of "21 Nov 2002 23:50:20 +0000")
Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net> writes:
>>>>>> "Mikael" == Mikael Djurfeldt <mdj@kvast.blakulla.net> writes:
>
> Mikael> (An alternative solution is to implement compile-method in
> Mikael> C, memoizing the source code while walking through it. In
> Mikael> fact, that could mean that we don't need to call
> Mikael> procedure-source => no need to unmemoize code.)
>
> A further possibility occurs to me - transforming the method
> definition at define-method time something like this:
>
> (define-macro (make-method gf specializers formals . body)
> `(letrec ((m (lambda ,formals
> (define (next-method)
> (call-next-method ,gf
> ,specializers
> m
> ,@formals))
> ,@body)))
> m))
>
> Given the gf and specializers, call-next-method works out a list of
> applicable methods (probably cached) in the same way as for a normal
> gf application, then it looks through this list for m and applies the
> method after m to the supplied arguments (formals).
>
> Would this kind of approach work?
It would "work", but gee... then you are talking about a totally
different speed regime than what holds now.
Are you saying that you'd want to compute the list of applicable
methods at every call to (next-method)? That way overhead per call
would become O(NM) where N is the number of applicable methods and M
the maximum length of argument lists.
Well, then I'd start avoiding to use next-method in certain code, and
I'd really hate that.
Call me a speed maniac, but I want to be able to write my programs in
a form that is similar to how I think of the problem without worrying
that it would be too slow. Basic language mechanisms *must* be
efficient. You may say (well, *you*, Neil, wouldn't) that "well, then
you shouldn't use scheme", but my point is that I'd like to use these
nice ways of expressing programs in as great extent as possible.
[For those who still think I'm being silly: My programs currently run
for *days* just analyzing one data set...]
Mikael
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-16 13:41 goops and memoization Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-17 10:56 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-20 18:11 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-11-21 3:11 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21 3:28 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21 23:50 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-22 1:08 ` Mikael Djurfeldt [this message]
2002-11-22 1:13 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-24 9:41 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-24 16:32 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-21 20:31 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-22 0:49 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-11-29 22:48 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-29 23:31 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-21 20:36 ` Neil Jerram
2002-11-24 16:42 ` Dirk Herrmann
[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212011757340.18607-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-01 18:00 ` Neil Jerram
2002-12-02 8:45 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-02 9:14 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-03 0:13 ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-12-03 7:59 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-03 8:38 ` Tom Lord
2002-12-04 2:25 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-04 2:49 ` Tom Lord
2002-12-03 17:17 ` Lynn Winebarger
2002-12-04 2:41 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212021650410.21423-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-04 1:53 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2002-12-04 2:38 ` Tom Lord
2002-12-04 2:56 ` Rob Browning
[not found] <Pine.GSO.4.05.10212021836430.21423-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de>
2002-12-04 2:19 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
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