From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Han-Wen Nienhuys Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel,gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel Subject: Re: %module-public-interface Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 11:00:49 -0300 Message-ID: References: <87zl1pv89p.fsf@gnu.org> <87d3ylv5oe.fsf@gnu.org> <4BB53617.7060700@hulin.org.uk> <87y6h6kxei.fsf@gnu.org> <4BB5DBF7.6050700@hulin.org.uk> Reply-To: hanwen@xs4all.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270562488 6923 80.91.229.12 (6 Apr 2010 14:01:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= , guile-devel@gnu.org, "lilypond-devel@gnu.org" To: Ian Hulin Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 06 16:01:23 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nz9LG-0006ah-R0 for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:01:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33124 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nz9LG-00014J-6a for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:01:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nz9Kr-0000uO-RA for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:00:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46402 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nz9Kq-0000tg-B8 for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:00:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nz9Kl-0002lq-Iz for guile-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:00:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:46000) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nz9Kl-0002lk-Cn; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:00:51 -0400 Original-Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2so4541802pwi.0 for ; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:00:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1Te2kXxgAA8ihEYP0Zi/GcZ1VspUwL64Y8KpRRZO0TE=; b=Atpmmr+wD391nZessgmrOYZxPy9cthiGvxgpcz/Xow/9aVtxNDYOpTRZUIGBYwXE+R pa9mSFa3s7sD3Q5hAAFCHWX66d3hqN+rnuXVnvjOKrQ5gGRGhNWgjZdCa66tyw9XVLiv 2RxliNU7TY60g8tdLnsrmEzlg08aVuUNkUcvw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vNZo3He3fgY6/WAf73QX3VNoJ/LsvP24A3DH7CSVI/7BQyDacjbRPJZ4pa1NA5bpCA VIoR3MDUfue/+5amWbToBVhpJTWZgNgvZadVjjqV6EOXCKpRozjfG9R2mgx19DTWbcg7 Vp9bTvOtbRhxUzAUWw6FAXxwBhDAyGxx1//lI= Original-Received: by 10.142.88.16 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:00:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BB5DBF7.6050700@hulin.org.uk> Original-Received: by 10.142.66.5 with SMTP id o5mr2548226wfa.159.1270562450017; Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:00:50 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:10149 gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel:28333 Archived-At: On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Ian Hulin wrote: >>>>>> How do they use it? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Linking to the evil empire: >>>>> http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=3Den&lr=3D&q=3D%25module-public-i= nterface&sbtn=3DSearch (ehh?) >> When is the new Lilypond release due? >> >> > > I'm not the ReleaseMeister for Lilypond; you'll get a better picture by > talking to Graham Percival (graham@percival-music.ca). > > But FWIW it looks like we're on our few last development releases before = the > stable V2.14 comes out. =C2=A0It's near enough for a spoof release announ= cement > to have gone out on the mailing list on April 1st which suckered me! > > I reckon plans are for Lilypond to stick with Guile V1.8.7 at least until > the next Lilypond stable version after V2.14, but again, mileage may vary= if > you talk to more experienced Lilypond people. Is Guile 2.0 already released? I think it makes sense to forget about guile 2.0 for the 2.14 release, and require 2.0 for the 2.16 release. We could scrap lots of hairy GC code if we could move to 2.0 (2.0 supports boehm GC, right?) > 4. We've already seen the %module-public-interface thing in the Lily C++. > =C2=A0There's probably more smelly stuff lurking in the C++ interface, wh= ich > won't surface until we start trying to use Guile 2.0 more. There may be lots of hairiness in the module interface; I sort of made up functions as I went along, since it was largely undocumented. --=20 Han-Wen Nienhuys - hanwen@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen