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From: "Tadeus Prastowo" <eus@gmx.com>
To: "Andy Wingo" <wingo@pobox.com>
Cc: christophe@poncy.fr, jgibbons2357@gmail.com,
	Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>,
	j1024@neritam.com, svante.signell@gmail.com,
	franta-gnu@frantovo.cz, guile-devel@gnu.org, g@xelera.eu,
	overthefalls@opengroupware.ch, best@mail.me, ams@gnu.org,
	quiliro@riseup.net, alex@vapaa.xyz, jagfsf@neritam.com,
	mikhail@kryshen.net, fsf-and-gnu@fsf.org,
	Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro>,
	stargrave@stargrave.org, piripirilampeiro@riseup.net,
	antonin.svoboda@outlook.com, schmorp@schmorp.de,
	nmbb@tutanota.com, gnu-and-fsf@gnu.org, Baba360@hotmail.co.uk,
	rms@gnu.org, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>,
	marinus.savoritias@tuta.io, rmssupport@protonmail.com,
	scott.monahan@openmail.cc, stefan.huchler@mail.de,
	adriennegayethompson@gmail.com, galex-713@galex-713.eu,
	wrbutros@gmail.com, 321942@gmail.com
Subject: Re: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 23:56:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-9a8884e2-1adb-4b52-bb9b-8254438092c4-1571262996250@3c-app-mailcom-bs06> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191016181203.GK23478@protected.rcdrun.com>

Dear Andy,

Could you kindly move https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ to your own site, please?

As Jean said, you (and/or Ludovic) should not have published the petition under gnu.org in the first place, to quote Jean [1]:

To publish his political opinions where Ludovic Courtès is defaming and harassing Richard Stallman on his own domain is disgraceful and shameful activity! That would be like me to kick my own mother in her stomach.

End quote.

Every family has their own weaknesses, but experiencing how broken one's family is not an excuse to kick one's own parents from the house that the parents have built with their own hands.  If one no longer wishes to live with their own parents, they definitely are free to leave their own parents and go out of their parents' houses.

Therefore, I implore you to take down https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ from a subdomain of gnu.org, hand over the maintenance of the GNU Guix project to Mark, resign from the GNU Guix project (leave your parent and go out of your parent's house), and set up your own site and repository to fork the GNU Guix project (build your own house now with your own hands, which is the right and fair thing to do instead of kicking your own parent out from their own house).

Lastly, I implore you to ask those who have signed https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ to follow suit.  For example, those GCC folks can definitely have the money of their own organizations jointly to fork GCC, no?  If not, then they should remove their signature from that joint statement, unless you have moved that statement out from under the gnu.org.  Fair, isn't it?

Thank you.

[1] https://gnu.support/richard-stallman/Ludovic-Court%C3%A8s-Guix-is-accusing-Stallman-of-Thoughtcrime-on-his-own-domain-GNU-org.html

--
Best regards,
Tadeus



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-10-16 21:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-16 13:14 conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Andy Wingo
2019-10-16 14:11 ` Thompson, David
2019-10-16 15:33   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-16 16:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-19 17:05       ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-16 18:27     ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 18:27   ` Jean Louis
2019-10-16 19:30   ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-18  9:44     ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2019-10-16 18:12 ` Jean Louis
     [not found]   ` <CAGua6m3d_t2hd7P2ueTsPZytF7pNO7f8xptBWofPw9UvyYWDaw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-10-16 21:32     ` Fwd: " Stefan Israelsson Tampe
2019-10-16 21:56   ` Tadeus Prastowo [this message]
2019-10-16 22:05     ` Adrienne G. Thompson
2019-10-18  3:16       ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-18  3:17     ` Richard Stallman
2019-10-18 10:37       ` Tadeus Prastowo
2019-10-16 19:21 ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-16 21:03 ` Linus Björnstam
2019-10-17  0:18 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-10-17  1:24 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-17  7:07   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-10-18  7:24     ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-19  7:51       ` Guile and Mes [WAS: conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile] Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2019-10-19  8:56         ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-18 11:20     ` conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-18 13:14       ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-18 13:33         ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-10-18 13:49           ` Thompson, David
2019-10-17  1:40 ` Mike Gran
2019-10-17  2:11 ` Neil Van Dyke
2019-10-17 18:11 ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-18  9:26   ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2019-10-19  4:03     ` Mikhail Kryshen
2019-10-18  1:06 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-18  6:31   ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-18  9:20   ` Mikael Djurfeldt
2019-10-18 14:22   ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-10-19 22:55 ` Taylan Kammer
2019-10-20  3:08   ` Mark H Weaver
2019-10-20  3:54     ` Nala Ginrut
2019-10-20 19:12     ` Taylan Kammer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-10-18 11:29 Todor Kondić
2019-10-18 15:09 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2019-10-18 11:45 Mark H Weaver

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