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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: Daniel Kraft <d@domob.eu>
Cc: Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org>,
	guile-devel <guile-devel@gnu.org>,
	Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
Subject: Re: Elisp lexical-let
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:56:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3y6qfgltl.fsf@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A683FB9.50806@domob.eu> (Daniel Kraft's message of "Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:47:21 +0200")

Hi,

On Thu 23 Jul 2009 12:47, Daniel Kraft <d@domob.eu> writes:

> Ken Raeburn wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 2009, at 05:11, Daniel Kraft wrote:
>>> It seemed really hard to me to find at least *basic* information
>>> about how the lexbind things works; I did build now an emacs with
>>> lexbind from trunk, but so far as I see this is not meant to
>>> implement "lexical-let" as the cl package does, but rather allows
>>> switching all bindings from dynamic to lexical within one source
>>> file.
>>
>> Oh... I may have seriously misunderstood; sorry about that.  That's
>> what comes from not having bothered to look. :-)
>
> Ok, I think I'll work on a cl like lexical-let now and see what this
> gives in performance related to dynamic let (and just to get it
> available of course).
>
> The implementation will (for now at least) be as I favour it, that is,
> inner lets revert to dynamic binding (as do inner lambdas for their
> arguments) -- this is more reasonable (I think), has more power (as the
> other way can be achieved by using lexical-let for inner lets when
> preferred, which is also clearer to understand) and should be easier to
> implement (because I don't need to mess around with the compilation of
> let constructs depending on the context).

Fair enough. The other semantics sound pretty crazy.

> I'll keep in mind also the lexbind idea of optionally making every
> binding lexical.  Andy, can you give me a hint/example/pointer how
> compiler options work?  This would be exactly the place to provide this,
> I think.  Additionally we could add an option to remove the "variable is
> void" error check for a further performance gain.

They don't work! Well, basically they're just a value that reaches the
compiler somehow. I think they are a keyword list: (#:foo bar #:baz qux)
etc. They are set via the #:opts argument to compile; I don't know if
you can set them from the command line. I was waiting for a use case :)

Peace,

Andy
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-23 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-21 19:48 Elisp lexical-let Daniel Kraft
2009-07-21 21:46 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-07-22  9:11   ` Daniel Kraft
2009-07-22 13:00     ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-07-22 19:24       ` Daniel Kraft
2009-07-23 15:24         ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-07-23 16:13           ` Mark H Weaver
2009-07-23 20:53             ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-23 17:05           ` Daniel Kraft
2009-07-24 11:09             ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-07-22 20:50     ` Ken Raeburn
2009-07-23 10:47       ` Daniel Kraft
2009-07-23 20:56         ` Andy Wingo [this message]
2009-07-24  6:50           ` Daniel Kraft
2009-07-23 20:49     ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-23 22:39 ` Andy Wingo
2009-07-24  7:08   ` Daniel Kraft
2009-07-24 11:42     ` Andy Wingo

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