From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: Hierarchical name space Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:31:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87k4ssusst.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270102405 15851 80.91.229.12 (1 Apr 2010 06:13:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:13:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 01 08:13:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxDea-0006LK-Jp for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 08:13:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39128 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NxDeZ-0003mB-GD for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NxDeR-0003lt-Vo for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:13:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58778 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NxDeO-0003lR-7h for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:13:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxDeN-0008SV-1a for guile-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:13:08 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:47917 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NxDeM-0008SQ-VI; Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:13:07 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06951A7BB4; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:13:06 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=sasl; bh=WiZsJ4mkOQsZ WQJ+oaNxNFWfeEk=; b=Ye6RjWoIBB8P4y3uM4H1LaOlDBMtbkkrjGEG6xyVAykB iVbxDUbbZPl6uuh6K0ESQKXGfcCwvoMSOp6Y0v9vADJUpGpYo1FfvpasgsAJqL3I zn5RVCoiw8+17+chK6wDG0iRaGezqc/OGovXjoWxG70LnhRfWKjNKLWJAyg1Waw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=sasl; b=uIJh14 jsLZVJzVLBmUk5RKcQMEzYgL0oPO1wrBqvLVsuBWz1ssHsvCWZKlyXp7liFUpFOA FSZ2TSCpfAp9ZRec11DzZNZ6QRCJshYZKJty/Yi3mWhUPmyhWQP51ZTsfq1dghea PnNY4kjIFDt01jQQ5IDzjo/8ISyzqgik2zKWI= Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix. (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43DDA7BB2; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from unquote (unknown [81.39.160.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1EA2FA7BB1; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:13:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87k4ssusst.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:42:26 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: A231DB64-3D55-11DF-9A4C-D033EE7EF46B-02397024!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:10132 Archived-At: On Wed 31 Mar 2010 22:42, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Court=C3=A8s) writes: > Hey, > > Andy Wingo writes: > >> Also in every module that has submodules, like (language tree-il) and >> (language tree-il compile-glil), the "supermodule" has a binding for the >> submodule. Do a (module-ref (resolve-module '(ice-9)) 'threads) >> sometime. > > I think I found a possible use case for the hierarchical name space. :-) > > Suppose we want something like PLaneT or Eggs, let=E2=80=99s call it GUMM > (Guile=E2=80=99s Unified Module Machinery). Ideally, we=E2=80=99d want t= o be able to > write this: > > (use-modules (gumm foo bar)) Ew. I even forgot that I did this with slib a while back. I'm still inclined to think that the module namespace hierarchy (and it is a hierarchy) should not impinge on the environment of an evaluation. But, not something we can change right now. A --=20 http://wingolog.org/