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From: Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com>
To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Parallel installability, API stability
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:17:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3my3kmx0z.fsf@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87my3kelvq.fsf_-_@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:45:45 +0200")

On Wed 21 Oct 2009 18:45, ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> Andy Wingo <wingo@pobox.com> writes:
>
>> Sure, we need to make well-thought-out changes -- but our current
>> policy of very extended C-level compatibility is very, very limiting,
>> and a big energy drain. If we think we need to change a function
>> interface, well, we just change it, and document the change as well --
>> perhaps even with a Coccinelle[0] patch.
>
> I’d probably be more conservative than you on API changes.  For
> instance, I think ‘scm_search_path()’ and ‘scm_primitive_load()’ should
> be the same in 1.8 and 2.0 (at least at the C level, because in Scheme
> it’s easy to retain compatibility with optional args.)

I'm OK with changing these ones back. I think we agree here.

> Guile is a niche, and so is Scheme.  Among those who develop
> applications using Guile, I bet the vast majority does it on their free
> time.

(Me too.)

But regarding user counts -- I still think we will have many more users
in the future than we have had in the past. We should think of them,
too...

> Thus, I think Guile core should evolve hands in hands with its users,
> making, indeed, only well-thought-out API changes.

OK. I really do think we agree for the most part on this. I'd rather not
spend any more energy on the question.

Regards,

Andy
-- 
http://wingolog.org/




      reply	other threads:[~2009-10-21 18:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-18 15:36 Compiled load path issues Ludovic Courtès
2009-10-19 19:16 ` Andy Wingo
2009-10-20  8:27   ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-10-20 18:59     ` Andy Wingo
2009-10-21 16:22       ` Ludovic Courtès
2009-10-21 18:15         ` Andy Wingo
2009-10-21 16:45       ` Parallel installability, API stability Ludovic Courtès
2009-10-21 18:17         ` Andy Wingo [this message]

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