From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.lisp.guile.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix hanging of popen.test Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:57:18 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1276210496-6477-1-git-send-email-neil@ossau.uklinux.net> <87vd9p5p07.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> <871vbq25if.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> <87d3v9irhy.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> <87sk442l0n.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> <87bpasvzra.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> <874ogfrnqf.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279367689 10131 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2010 11:54:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 11:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org To: Neil Jerram Original-X-From: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 17 13:54:48 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: guile-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa5yg-0001SV-3A for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:54:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51586 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oa5yf-0007Iu-FR for guile-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:54:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52546 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Oa5yX-0007I9-OT for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:54:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa5yV-000089-Rn for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:54:37 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:53500 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Oa5yV-000081-On for guile-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:54:35 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0313C57A3; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:54:34 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=3fq5I/aRdu7AuhLwTW1pQVl6mpU=; b=qDIxdl Zp3h316hlXnwdKlIGiiSouQr+4Wa1xIQe6qtuPvP4KUlUEibvtDYmnpueBoYjMcg l4inUPh9vCO+HEhcIYmNsEMB3K9p3aZ3gYj6Q47D5QVDRH7PkApiI+BJ01zpc7Vb M2+oYI34z0aUSa0CkF0QXyIct79v6TujcFMaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=HRX/Ez1ZPZYqI4FZQnxN9L0PCrn1BxVA Bt2xiG3SdBtYmNqdAhbJnckMkDIyb6T/omFgICNVj+Xi35ImxeZ0FW3ThNERXJpZ pIh49oGOMrc8v/yn4Bnzrd8Mh3zV+WxDdMjFGW6+c3W7TjB9HAUM+Rg98Ya3BZK9 l8Me/ikZ930= Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix. (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB39DC57A2; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from unquote.localdomain (unknown [81.38.186.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0618EC579C; Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:54:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <874ogfrnqf.fsf@ossau.uklinux.net> (Neil Jerram's message of "Sun, 04 Jul 2010 21:33:27 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 10D8C454-919A-11DF-9523-9056EE7EF46B-02397024!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: guile-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Developers list for Guile, the GNU extensibility library" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: guile-devel-bounces+guile-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.lisp.guile.devel:10677 Archived-At: Hi, On Sun 04 Jul 2010 22:33, Neil Jerram writes: > Andy Wingo writes: > >> This has been an on-and-off issue: >> 02fcbf78b27788c03563e5c3d297a4cd469ce562, and >> 04af4c4c5221c082905d52eb5ad3829ed681d097. > > Right. The commit (4f99a499197b592a9a3060de2205531852f4f94) that > Patrick McCarty identified (with git bisect) is another very similar > case. I think I fixed this one again. > The general problem is that any #:use-module or (@ ...) that indirectly > pulls in srfi-1, in any code that is run as part of Guile startup, will > cause the build to fail when doing the snarf-check-and-output-texi, > because libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-4 hasn't been built at that point. > > But if the developer concerned happens to have a compatible > libguile-srfi-srfi-13-14-v-4 and libguile installed in /usr/lib or > /usr/local/lib, the build may pick those up and so mask the problem. > > Is there a reason why we don't just move all the SRFI C code into the > core libguile? I think that would be a general fix. I agree. They should probably still be their own shlibs, but built at the same time as libguile. Then we make snarf-check-and-output-texi depend on the libs being built, as necessary. Though I would hope that with time we can remove the need for these shlibs, instead mostly implementing srfis in scheme, and using the dynamic FFI as needed... Andy -- http://wingolog.org/