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From: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Doc organization (Re: Around again, and docs lead role)
Date: 10 May 2003 12:32:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3k7cz596i.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87isskq2mi.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org>

>>>>> "Rob" == Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org> writes:

    Rob> Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net> writes:
    >> To avoid this happening, I suggest that we could solve this
    >> problem by a mechanism that links Scheme code into a library or
    >> executable at build time.  This could be something like unexec
    >> (in which case the source would already have been read and
    >> stored in tree code), or it could be a linker tool that just
    >> dumps plain source code into the binary - as though it was a
    >> big const char[], but more convenient to use at build time.

    Rob> That could be interesting.  To some extent how we decide to
    Rob> handle compilation will factor in here.

Yes.

    Rob> If you thought large static scm fragments, were likely to be
    Rob> common, I guess one thing that might make hacking easier
    Rob> would be an easy way to do something equivalent to #include
    Rob> <foo.scm>, i.e. a way you could hack the scheme part as a
    Rob> scheme file, but then have the code end up incorporated in
    Rob> and evaled by the .so file.  Of course I guess anyone could
    Rob> hack something like that up if they needed to with a makefile
    Rob> and appropriate use of "cat"...

#include <foo.scm> would be very nice, but we'll probably need
something more dynamic as well.  I don't see what you mean by cat
though.

    Rob> Actually, I've been playing around with code that would make something
    Rob> like this possible (as a dumb example):

    Rob>   (define (double x)
    Rob>     (c-syntax
    Rob>       (if ("SCM_INUMP" x)
    Rob>           (return (* x x))
    Rob>           (return ("scm_apply" ("scm_lookup" "+") x x)))))

I don't see how this helps - please explain.

    Rob> Sure, but I was wondering what else might be needed.  Of course I'm
    Rob> not sure I have a clear idea of what kind of things might be
    Rob> omitted...

I don't have a very clear idea myself yet.  The main category in my
mind so far is almost all primitives - e.g. scm_catch, scm_setgid,
scm_set_object_properties_x - some exceptions being those concerned
with dissecting and constructing data - e.g. scm_cons, scm_list_p,
SCM_CAR, scm_vector.

Regards,
        Neil



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-10 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-26  7:33 Around again, and docs lead role Neil Jerram
2003-04-26 10:19 ` Thamer Al-Harbash
2003-04-27 20:56   ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]   ` <3E92E1B40021F4D7@pop3.tiscalinet.es>
2003-04-27 21:01     ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]       ` <3E92E1B4002B0632@pop3.tiscalinet.es>
2003-04-30 22:47         ` Neil Jerram
     [not found]           ` <3EAFE4EC000D9733@pop1.tiscalinet.es>
2003-05-07 21:06             ` Doc organization (Re: Around again, and docs lead role) Neil Jerram
2003-05-08 16:21               ` Rob Browning
2003-05-08 17:50                 ` rm
2003-05-08 22:47                   ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-08 21:18                 ` Wolfgang Jaehrling
2003-05-08 22:36                 ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-09  2:23                   ` Rob Browning
2003-05-09 17:46                     ` David Van Horn
2003-05-10 11:32                     ` Neil Jerram [this message]
2003-05-15 16:02                       ` Rob Browning
2003-05-15 16:33                         ` Paul Jarc
2003-05-08 16:21               ` Max Techter
     [not found]                 ` <3EB9828B00021495@pop1.tiscalinet.es>
2003-05-08 21:12                   ` Max Techter
2003-05-27  2:02                     ` Max Techter
2003-05-08 22:57                 ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-09 12:32                   ` Max Techter
2003-05-09  8:15               ` tomas
2003-05-10 12:01                 ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-12 11:40                   ` tomas
2003-05-12 16:46 ` Around again, and docs lead role Max Techter
2003-05-12 20:25   ` Neil Jerram
2003-05-13 14:14     ` Max Techter
2003-05-13 19:56       ` Neil Jerram

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