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From: Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.uklinux.net>
Cc: guile-devel@gnu.org, guile-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: macros, procedure->macro
Date: 09 Jul 2002 22:16:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3fzysa9fe.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.GSO.4.05.10207012134500.15843-100000@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de

>>>>> "Dirk" == Dirk Herrmann <dirk@sallust.ida.ing.tu-bs.de> writes:

    Dirk> 1) Some macro expert should check that replacing the call to
    procedure-> macro in boot-9.scm by a call to
    procedure->memoizing-macro is safe.

This change is safe, since define-option-interface is only ever used
at top level.

    Dirk> 2) Every guile user should determine, whether it would be OK
    Dirk> if we got rid of "macros".

    Dirk> 3) Decide officially, whether it is OK to remove "macros" from the head
    Dirk> branch.

    Dirk> If all results are positive, I will go ahead and remove the support
    Dirk> for "macros" from guile.  After that, I will take a close look at "acros"
    Dirk> and we will play a similar game with "acros" again...

Before doing this, I think we need to state clearly when macro
expansion will happen in the future Guile.

There was a discussion on this just a few weeks ago which, to my mind,
was left unresolved.

(As far as I understand, the options are just after reading and just
before memoization, but just-after-reading makes recursive macro
definitions difficult, and just-before-memoization leads to rather
lame execution-dependent expansion.

Obviously, by definition, the exact timing only matters for
non-hygienic macros; but my assumption is that an awful lot of people
want non-hygienic macros.)

        Neil

PS. I think we should not mix up this discussion with one about class
redefinition!


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-09 21:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-01 19:56 macros, procedure->macro Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-01 21:30 ` Rob Browning
2002-07-03 20:24   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-01 22:14 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-03 20:11   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-07 17:54     ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-08 20:31       ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-09 18:22         ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10  5:21           ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-10 19:31             ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10 19:57               ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-10 20:08                 ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-01 22:17 ` Gary Houston
2002-07-09 21:16 ` Neil Jerram [this message]
2002-07-10  5:46   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-10 10:15     ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-10 20:03       ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13  0:09         ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-13  2:36           ` Clinton Ebadi
2002-07-14 15:23             ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-14 16:26               ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-15  6:03                 ` Rob Browning
2002-07-13  6:53           ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-14 15:23             ` Neil Jerram
     [not found] <200207012220.PAA08054@onyx.he.net>
2002-07-03 20:08 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-04 20:16   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-07 18:15     ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <87n0t376c9.fsf@zagadka.ping.de>
2002-07-08 20:23 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-09 18:13   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-10 21:54 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13  9:53   ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-13 18:38     ` Marius Vollmer
     [not found] <m3lm8e5o69.fsf@laruns.ossau.uklinux.net>
2002-07-14 21:35 ` Dirk Herrmann
2002-07-15 20:48   ` Marius Vollmer
2002-07-15 22:42   ` Neil Jerram
2002-07-16 22:00     ` Dirk Herrmann

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